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FiveRinger
08-28-2011, 11:50 PM
I found an old compulsory clip of Natalja Ilienkos that I found interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4TUHOV0kQA&NR=1

I find it interesting because I think she took a lot of movements from that particular routine for her later floor exercises. Some leaps and turns look so familiar when she does them!

God, I miss compulsories. What I wouldn't do for them to bring them back. And they would bring so much to gymnastics. I wonder if there's someone that I can talk to about that?:slinkaway

Spareoom
08-29-2011, 05:28 AM
The Canadian women's world team was named after a selection camp and two mock meets this week-end. Here's the link: http://gymcan.org/site/news.php?id=369

The 7 member team (alternate to be determined later) is Talia Chiarelli, Madeline Gardiner, Mikaela Gerber, Coralie Leblond-Chartrand, Christine Lee, Dominique Pegg, and Kristina Vaculik.

Jessica Savona tore her ACL at the Japan Cup in July so was out of contention; she recently had surgery and is expected to be back training in January.

This is random, but I'm happy to see Talia's name on there. She used to compete for the US and trained at Brestyans, and was to Aly what Aly is to Alicia. ;) I'm all for duel citizen gymnasts who can't break into the top US tier to try their luck elsewhere. They get to compete at the international level, Marta gets to crush one less dream and everyone is happy. ;)

Loves_Shizuka
08-29-2011, 11:27 AM
Just a few questions for the ubers.

The Brits managed to place 2nd at Europeans last year in the team event, 4 points ahead of Romania and 1 point behind Russia. :eek:

Now, I understand Tweddle was super and Downie had a blinder.....but was the medal a fluke?

How much stronger will the Romanians be at worlds?

What European teams have improved since last year? If any?

Cheers

I think calling it a "fluke" would be a little unfair, but yes, the Brits did have a very good day. ROM had only four gymnasts (the UK had five) so I wonder if there was an injury somewhere (I can't remember) - they had to do without Iszbasa. This year, Romania should do pretty well at worlds - Chelaru, Racea, Haidu, Porgras and Iszbasa are looking good I believe, AND Ponor is back (though I don't know if she'll be at worlds)

I'm not as up on gym as some others on here, but from what I can tell, the US are the favourites for worlds, though that tag isn't as red-hot as it was earlier in the year, especially with Bross out. After that, it's the usual candidates - Russia are weakened with Mustafina out and Komova injured, the Chinese are struggling a tad (apparent lack of relative depth, injuries and inconsistency)

As far as Euro teams are concerned, the Italians seem to be doing really well recently, and Germany has Elizabeth Seitz, who's pretty strong.

danafan
08-29-2011, 01:12 PM
This is random, but I'm happy to see Talia's name on there. She used to compete for the US and trained at Brestyans, and was to Aly what Aly is to Alicia. ;) I'm all for duel citizen gymnasts who can't break into the top US tier to try their luck elsewhere. They get to compete at the international level, Marta gets to crush one less dream and everyone is happy. ;)

Just to clarify, Talia Chiarelli never competed for the US, though she has competed in the US and qualified to the US Championships at the junior level. She never made the US national team and never competed internationally.

She was born in Canada and started gymnastics in Ottawa before moving to Boston when her dad became GM for the Boston Bruins hockey team in 2006.

Chiarelli still trains primarily at Brestyan's and only comes to Canada to train before competitions (when in Canada she trains with Dominique Pegg at Bluewater with coaches Dave and Liz Brubaker).

As of the Canadian championships in May, Chiarelli did not have her US citizenship yet, according to the Gymnastics Examiner. (http://www.examiner.com/gymnastics-in-national/dominique-pegg-victoria-moors-lead-canadian-nationals)


Former Canadian competitor Talia Chiarelli, who moved to Massachusetts several years ago, competed as a guest* and finished fifth overall. Chiarelli is in the process of getting U.S. citizenship and does plan to try and compete internationally for Canada, she said.

*Though I would take that with a grain of salt, as she was absolutely not competing at the Canadian championships as a "guest".

millyskate
08-30-2011, 11:52 AM
Just a few questions for the ubers.

The Brits managed to place 2nd at Europeans last year in the team event, 4 points ahead of Romania and 1 point behind Russia. :eek:

Now, I understand Tweddle was super and Downie had a blinder.....but was the medal a fluke?

How much stronger will the Romanians be at worlds?

What European teams have improved since last year? If any?

Cheers

The Brits often manage to pull it off when it counts, and they certainly did when they won the medal at Euros. It wasn't a fluke, but Beth was at the peak of her career and so was Downie. They're two very good gymnasts that pulled the team along.This year, I expect Spain to be the dark horse. They've been doing really well so far, and I wouldn't be surprised for them to get a place in team finals above GB, France, Italy and Germany.

GB have relied extremely heavily on Downie and Tweddle, and with Beth a little past her best and Downie injured, they'll struggle a little I think. It's a shame, I love Danusia Francis but it seems injuries have plagued her and her routines are downgraded this year, so she might miss out on the team again. Pinches is beyond unreliable (in fact I always wonder why they select her), and Whelan does better in domestic meets.
I've been a bit surprised that rather than building on their assets, the girls have continued to play it safe and even downgraded their routines, when the rest of the world is upgrading. It's difficult to know how much injuries have played a part, but double pikes of bars and full twisting yurchenkos are not really cutting it anymore.

I'm hoping that they'll qualify a full team for London, and maybe with Downie fit again and Marissa King they'll manage to pull something out of the bag. I just think the timing of the games is a little off for GB.

Loves_Shizuka
08-30-2011, 07:17 PM
Just looking back at some vids, Becky Downie really DID have a blinder at the Euro TF.

Beam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fli_G9DWp8k)

Vault (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QrOnuGk3dE)

Bars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPvO_Z-llH8)

She's better than I thought.

BigB08822
08-30-2011, 07:21 PM
Just looking back at some vids, Becky Downie really DID have a blinder at the Euro TF.

Beam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fli_G9DWp8k)

Vault (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QrOnuGk3dE)

Bars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPvO_Z-llH8)

She's better than I thought.

Wow, she really was great. She just doesn't have the difficulty on beam or vault. Her bars looked great, though.

Loves_Shizuka
08-30-2011, 08:00 PM
^you're right. In terms of performance/executuion though, she couldn't have done much better! There was barely a wobble in that BB routine.

Lara
08-31-2011, 03:16 PM
danafan, do you think there's a decent shot for Canada to qualify a full team to London? Fingers crossed!!!

Braulio
08-31-2011, 04:42 PM
Is Larisa Iordache age eligible for Tokio worlds?

danafan
09-01-2011, 01:33 AM
danafan, do you think there's a decent shot for Canada to qualify a full team to London? Fingers crossed!!!

Yes. We are going to gain a lot of ground on vault this year thanks to upgrades, and if we don't make top 8 in Tokyo we can use Victoria Moors at the test event.

There's a brief highlight video from the recent selection activity on youtube: http://youtu.be/rsFEYRRpCwg

BigB08822
09-01-2011, 01:51 AM
Peng Peng! Her bars looks strong, a Bhardwaj and a Shaposh half! What is her D score?

danafan
09-01-2011, 02:02 AM
Peng Peng! Her bars looks strong, a Bhardwaj and a Shaposh half! What is her D score?

Her D score is only 5.7, because she's counting a "B" as one of her 8 elements. I'm sure there's a lot more she could do, but at this point she needs a stable routine for Olympic qualification, and this is the type of gymnastics we need to do to get there.

Vaculik is currently doing a 5.8 D score and she does the toe-on Khorkina as well.

zippy
09-01-2011, 06:01 AM
^ I know next to nothing about gymnastics, Canadian gym especially, but that Vaculik has a gorgeous gienger!

DustPuppyOI
09-01-2011, 08:24 PM
Peng Peng! Her bars looks strong, a Bhardwaj and a Shaposh half! What is her D score?


Her D score is only 5.7, because she's counting a "B" as one of her 8 elements. I'm sure there's a lot more she could do, but at this point she needs a stable routine for Olympic qualification, and this is the type of gymnastics we need to do to get there.

Here's her full routine from Day 2 of World Trials: http://gymnasticscoaching.com/new/2011/08/peng-peng-lee-bars/