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HeatherC
08-25-2011, 05:02 AM
I'm glad to hear Rebecca is going to be okay. Hope she takes a decent amount of time to heal up so she can be ready for next year. Get well soon Becca! :cheer:

judgejudy27
08-25-2011, 05:05 AM
bek, I am wondering as well what percentage odds would you give Bross at this point to:

1. Make the U.S Olympic team
2. Be 1 of the 2 to make the AA finals for the U.S in London
3. Be in real contention for the AA gold in London

Mine at this point would be:

1. 85%
2. 40%
3. 15%

BigB08822
08-25-2011, 05:24 AM
I don't think Bross has a good shot for gold in the AA in London even if she is at 100% Her form and lack of an Amanar will not allow her to win without other injuries from competitors or major mistakes from a number of people.

I think she can make the Olympic team but her value is really diminishing. She is useful as an AA medal threat but really of little value elsewhere. She is a bronze medal contender on beam and floor but so what, we have other gold medal contenders on other events. Her bars is her saving grace at this point but things change very quickly in this sport and you never know, we could have 2 or 3 gymnast show up at Nationals next year with high D scores and consistent sets.

Loves_Shizuka
08-25-2011, 10:48 AM
Not US centric but I came across this on another board and wanted to post it here. I missed it when it aired here so was glad to find it. This is a feature length documentary by the BBC on the team selection for Beijing. While Tweddle is the only real international 'name' in the documentary it's very well put together and makes compelling and sometimes heart-breaking viewing. Don't think it was posted in the old thread.

Gymnast Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSailf5VwSc&feature=related)

Gymnast Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2glvt1q4r8&feature=related)

Gymnast Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kZAfmLp_-w&feature=related)

Just want to say a big thanks for this. I'm not even into UK gym (and I'm a Brit! :o ) but I was totally engrossed by this. A great watch; thanks!

Karpenko
08-25-2011, 10:53 AM
I wish Valeri would teach her a new vault. If she could learn a half on, maybe a tucked Khorkina II would be a good route for her to go. I think its around a 6.1 difficulty score and shes never going to have straight legs in a layout position vault, ever. She also needs to upload the crap outta her UB routine, rumor was she was training the Lin pirouette before her jaegar, learn more of this! a BHS out of her arabian on BB would add .2, and a couple new flipping passes on floor (shes more than capable of a double layout and full-in)... I'm not giving up on Becca, something about this whole thing screams blessing in disguise. I'm rooting for her.

Loves_Shizuka
08-25-2011, 11:34 AM
I don't think Bross has a good shot for gold in the AA in London even if she is at 100% Her form and lack of an Amanar will not allow her to win without other injuries from competitors or major mistakes from a number of people.

I think she can make the Olympic team but her value is really diminishing. She is useful as an AA medal threat but really of little value elsewhere. She is a bronze medal contender on beam and floor but so what, we have other gold medal contenders on other events. Her bars is her saving grace at this point but things change very quickly in this sport and you never know, we could have 2 or 3 gymnast show up at Nationals next year with high D scores and consistent sets.

It does sadden me, that, due to the nature of this sport, and even moreso now with the 5 per team format, that a gymnasts "usefulness" can be so shortlived (and god I hate the term "usefulness") What a shame it'd be for Becca, as one of thee dominant forces of this squad, if she didn't get to go to an Olympic Games. Hopefully it won't happen - all the best to her.

floskate
08-25-2011, 06:19 PM
Just want to say a big thanks for this. I'm not even into UK gym (and I'm a Brit! :o ) but I was totally engrossed by this. A great watch; thanks!

You're very welcome. Me too we suck (apart from Beth) but this is seriously one of the best sports documentaries I have ever seen. No hype, no stupid narration, just great editing and compelling stories. Some of the parents were horrific however - especially Laura Jones' but you had to feel for her and Hannah Clowes especially at the end. Glad you enjoyed it.

Hedwig
08-25-2011, 09:09 PM
You're very welcome. Me too we suck (apart from Beth) but this is seriously one of the best sports documentaries I have ever seen. No hype, no stupid narration, just great editing and compelling stories. Some of the parents were horrific however - especially Laura Jones' but you had to feel for her and Hannah Clowes especially at the end. Glad you enjoyed it.

I just watched it and enjoyed it very much. Yes, Laura's parents were :eek: and some parents put so much pressure on their kids...


But it was great to see some backgrounds - I love Hannah Whelan and she was so cute as the bright eyed kid she was back then!

Allen
08-25-2011, 09:27 PM
I think Khorkina II is actually 5.9, which is still higher than the DTY.

Loves_Shizuka
08-26-2011, 06:57 PM
A great little segment on Gabby Douglas! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6yilJVqryg)

poths
08-26-2011, 11:42 PM
Just a few questions for the ubers.

The Brits managed to place 2nd at Europeans last year in the team event, 4 points ahead of Romania and 1 point behind Russia. :eek:

Now, I understand Tweddle was super and Downie had a blinder.....but was the medal a fluke?

How much stronger will the Romanians be at worlds?

What European teams have improved since last year? If any?

Cheers

chipso1
08-26-2011, 11:54 PM
A great little segment on Gabby Douglas! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6yilJVqryg)

Thanks for sharing! :) I would really love to see her on the World team this year! I hope she can prove to Martha in the next month that she deserves to be there.

Buzz
08-28-2011, 04:34 PM
Germany had their nationals and Phillip Boy and Elizabeth Seitz won the mens and ladies titles. Fabien Hambuchen did only four events but did get the highest score of 16.350. Hope he does the AA at worlds.

http://www.intlgymnast.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2727:seitz-boy-best-field-at-german-championships&catid=5:competition-reports&Itemid=164

Hedwig
08-28-2011, 08:32 PM
I found an old compulsory clip of Natalja Ilienkos that I found interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4TUHOV0kQA&NR=1

I find it interesting because I think she took a lot of movements from that particular routine for her later floor exercises. Some leaps and turns look so familiar when she does them!

danafan
08-28-2011, 09:13 PM
The Canadian women's world team was named after a selection camp and two mock meets this week-end. Here's the link: http://gymcan.org/site/news.php?id=369

The 7 member team (alternate to be determined later) is Talia Chiarelli, Madeline Gardiner, Mikaela Gerber, Coralie Leblond-Chartrand, Christine Lee, Dominique Pegg, and Kristina Vaculik.

Jessica Savona tore her ACL at the Japan Cup in July so was out of contention; she recently had surgery and is expected to be back training in January.