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Scintillation
09-17-2011, 01:42 AM
As the years have past, Liukin's hair has gotten bigger and bigger, and the chances of her returning to competition have correspondingly gotten smaller and smaller. I don't think that's a coincidence. Who could give up Texas-sized hair for the glory of competition?

chipso1
09-17-2011, 02:11 AM
If you look at the pictures of her in London this week, Nastia's weave is gone. :cheer:

vesperholly
09-17-2011, 03:21 AM
I just missed it when a team competition was actually a team competition.

True. I liked 6-5-4, that way most of the team has to perform. 6-3-3 and 5-3-3 just make no sense to me.

Fridge_Break
09-17-2011, 05:31 AM
The reasoning behind the 6-3-3 (or 5-3-3) format was to allow new countries that don't necessarily have the depth of a 6-5-4 team to challenge for medals. But that's not been the case by any means. The same countries are dominating on both the men's and women's side. The only exception over the years has been German men's team. I'd much rather have a 6-5-4 format. The fans get more gymnastics, and teams aren't automatically out of the running if a gymnast suffers injury in the middle of a routine, or has a debacle like what happened to the Russians at Worlds a few years ago, when a gymnast got confused and went before the flag and therefore was awarded a 0.00.

The FIG has really been driving this sport into the toilet over the years. Don't even get me started on the freaking scoring system. I will forever be an advocate of the 10.0 in gymnastics.

reese
09-17-2011, 05:42 AM
The reasoning behind the 6-3-3 (or 5-3-3) format was to allow new countries that don't necessarily have the depth of a 6-5-4 team to challenge for medals. But that's not been the case by any means. The same countries are dominating on both the men's and women's side. The only exception over the years has been German men's team. I'd much rather have a 6-5-4 format. The fans get more gymnastics, and teams aren't automatically out of the running if a gymnast suffers injury in the middle of a routine, or has a debacle like what happened to the Russians at Worlds a few years ago, when a gymnast got confused and went before the flag and therefore was awarded a 0.00.

The FIG has really been driving this sport into the toilet over the years. Don't even get me started on the freaking scoring system. I will forever be an advocate of the 10.0 in gymnastics.

I think the 0.00 on vault for going before the flag was Anna Pavlova in the vault event finals in Beijing. In 2007, Ekaterina Kramarenko got a 0.00 on vault in the team finals at Worlds because she ran down, messed up her timing, and touched the table. If she had just run off to the side and not touched the table I believe she could have gone again with no penalty.

I agree that FIG is driving the sport into the toilet. I really am barely interested anymore and I used to follow gymnastics pretty closely. I'd rather watch diving or synchronized swimming at the summer Olympics.

BigB08822
09-17-2011, 05:59 AM
The idea that someone could get injured mid routine or on a mount or touch the vault table during a balk and then get a 0 is just ridiculous. How does that decide who the best team is? The best compromise is easily 6-5-4 for team finals.

floskate
09-17-2011, 08:30 AM
Here's an interview with Nastia this week at the US embassy in London. She doesn't look any different to me than the last couple of years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb4gtA-NzP0

VIETgrlTerifa
09-17-2011, 09:43 AM
I just wish Nastia didn't live in Texas (no offense to Texans here because I know Texans who are stylish) because she's really looking like the worst stereotypes of the state. If she just had a different style she could look so much better.

BTW, I feel so sorry for the girls at Death Camp 2 right now. They have a whole freakin' month with BARTA.

Choupette
09-17-2011, 02:05 PM
I wish the format was 5-5-4. Or then, perhaps a 6-5-4 but using 4 AA gymnasts would be mandatory, leaving a little bit of room for specialists but making the AA the priority.

Loves_Shizuka
09-17-2011, 02:12 PM
^Yer, the AA just doesn't feel as prestigious as it used to. And with SV's and everything now, it also seems VERY predictable.

My favourite format was that they used in 95 and 96. I know they hoped the 6-3-3 would enable other countries with less depth to do well, but it's the same old story. I agree with whomever said earlier that the FIG is ruining things with several AWFUL decisions in the last few years.

mkats
09-17-2011, 03:17 PM
I used to be a huge fan of Nastia's, going all the way back to 2004, but post 2010-ish I feel like she's just become... kind of annoying :shuffle: I stopped following her on twitter because there's virtually nothing about gymnastics or about her daily life anymore - it's all just about promoting herself. Like the other day when she posted a picture of herself standing under the sign in Parker, Texas that says "Home of Nastia Liukin - Olympian" with the caption "OMG Nina made me do this - SO EMBARRASSING" or something like that. If you're so embarrassed, why post it if you're not looking for the attention?

FiveRinger
09-17-2011, 08:45 PM
I used to be a huge fan of Nastia's, going all the way back to 2004, but post 2010-ish I feel like she's just become... kind of annoying :shuffle: I stopped following her on twitter because there's virtually nothing about gymnastics or about her daily life anymore - it's all just about promoting herself. Like the other day when she posted a picture of herself standing under the sign in Parker, Texas that says "Home of Nastia Liukin - Olympian" with the caption "OMG Nina made me do this - SO EMBARRASSING" or something like that. If you're so embarrassed, why post it if you're not looking for the attention?

She's trying to keep a paycheck coming in. She's BFF with Carly Patterson, and has seen her move into virtual obscurity. Who even remembers who she is anymore? The gymnastics AA OGM is supposed to virtually support you for a lifetime, especially here in America (i.e. Mary Lou). Nastia can't cash in if we forget who she is.

Loves_Shizuka
09-17-2011, 09:20 PM
i.e she's selling out?

FiveRinger
09-18-2011, 12:18 AM
i.e she's selling out?

I can't say, but she's out there trying to make a dollar while she can. I don't blame her there...she doesn't want to be on the news ten years from now because the IRS took her house.

Pierre
09-18-2011, 12:34 AM
Much like skating, becoming one of the female American greats in gymnastics no longer seems to be a way to guarantee fame in the United States. Of course, everyone knows who Shawn Johnson is, but that is thanks mostly to Dancing with the Stars. Liukin needs to do whatever she can to get on that show.