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HeatherC
09-13-2011, 04:45 AM
My heart still aches for Hollie Vise. :fragile:

Cloudy_Gumdrops
09-13-2011, 05:00 AM
My heart still aches for Hollie Vise. :fragile:

Poor Hollie. There was just no room for her on the team. Ever girl on that team (except Hatch) was good on bars. Hollie's 2nd best event (beam) was more than covered by the others on the team as well.

The worst part was how the tv camera just closed in on her crying. I hated the way that team had been announced.

FiveRinger
09-13-2011, 06:19 AM
My heart still aches for Hollie Vise. :fragile:

Me too. Hollie was one of my faves.

judgejudy27
09-13-2011, 07:49 AM
Hollie had a back injury in 2004 and her beam imparticular looked nowhere near as strong as 2003. If she was still the same gymnast she was in 2003 she might have had made the team even with the teams depth on bars and beam. I heard she struggled on beam at the camps too, so that probably sealed her fate. If she was going to make the team as a bars/beam specialist which the team didnt really need, she needed to prove herself spectacular and reliable on those events.

OnyxRose81
09-13-2011, 04:08 PM
Hollie had a back injury in 2004 and her beam imparticular looked nowhere near as strong as 2003. If she was still the same gymnast she was in 2003 she might have had made the team even with the teams depth on bars and beam. I heard she struggled on beam at the camps too, so that probably sealed her fate. If she was going to make the team as a bars/beam specialist which the team didnt really need, she needed to prove herself spectacular and reliable on those events.

Even in 2003, she was a far cry from the gymnast she was in her junior days. She steadily grew worse over the years and by 2004, she had no place on the team. She was just struggling all that year so I never understood why some felt she was robbed of a place on the team.

Loves_Shizuka
09-13-2011, 06:20 PM
I never got the Hollie Vise love.

danafan
09-13-2011, 10:03 PM
To be fair, the code on bars now is so lopsided now in favour of all the elgrip work that the Chinese excel at. It's virtually impossible to get comparable D scores, whereas in 2004 everyone was capped at 10.0 and there were many ways to get there. Now if you can't do elgrip you have to do crazy hard release connections etc that are much more difficult to hit in competition.

Braulio
09-14-2011, 12:30 AM
ITA, remember the romanians getting start values of 10.00 with almost empty-difficulty?? that was weird

Coco
09-14-2011, 12:41 AM
random code question:

There is .2 in connection value (CV) for combining D-B-C elements, in any order.

There is also .2 in CV for D-C connection if the connection is dynamic (in the same direction, 2nd element takes off of 2 feet).

If you did D-C-B, all in the same direction, do you get .4 in CV total, .2 for the D-C and .2 for the D-C-B?

danafan
09-14-2011, 12:51 AM
No, the D+C+B connection maxes out at 0.2. The only way a three element acro connection can 'double dip' is if it can be considered two separate two element connections, where the second element is the second element of the first connection and the first element of the second connection.

So if someone did aerial cartwheel (D) to layout step-out (C) to a back pike (C) - the layout step-out can be the second element of the first D+C dynamic connection (0.2) and the first element in a C+C connection with the back pike (0.1).

BigB08822
09-14-2011, 02:05 AM
Which is why we see so many of those damn connections.

Coco
09-14-2011, 05:11 AM
thanks - I knew what the result should be, but didn't know why.

We're starting to see a lot of B elements tacked on to the end of difficult skills, and it's getting on my nerves. I assume this is because of the B+F CV. Too bad that wasn't required to be in that order.

Rob
09-14-2011, 01:34 PM
Ponor on beam at Rom nats:http://www.universalsports.com/news-blogs/blogs/blog=tumblemumble/postid=552271.html

barbk
09-14-2011, 06:25 PM
Ponor on beam at Rom nats:http://www.universalsports.com/news-blogs/blogs/blog=tumblemumble/postid=552271.html

Wow -- she was like a rock. Nice to see another gymnast who looks like an adult doing so well.

ilovepaydays
09-14-2011, 06:40 PM
Shawn Johnson sprains foot ahead of final World Team selection camp (http://www.universalsports.com/news-blogs/article/newsid=556369.html)

Johnson plans on returning to the final Worlds' selection camp this weekend.

I know in gymnastics injuries like this can be common, but am I the only one who is thinking that the 2012 US team will come down to who can deliver the most despite being injured?