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Maofan7
08-13-2011, 06:40 PM
The 2010 Olympics were a disaster for Russia compared to previous Olympics. They came away with just one silver and 1 bronze. From 1976 - 2006 (as the Soviet Union, the Unified Team, and Russia) they won at least 2 gold medals in each Olympics except 1984 when they won 1. From 1964 - 1972, they won 1 gold in each Olympics in an era when there were just 3 events with no Ice Dance. Hence, 2010 was there worst Olympics since 1960 when they came away with absolutely nothing (1960 was the Squaw Valley Olympics which were a triumph for the United States - winning 2 Gold and 2 bronze - at the height of its supremacy just before the tragedy of the Sabena Flight 548 air disaster in 1961). In essence, ever since the Sabena Flight 548 air disaster in 1961, Russia has dominated figure skating for the most part right up to 2006. At the 2010 Olympics, however, Asia and North America shared the spoils with 2 Gold Medals apiece (the United States and China topping the medal table with a Gold and a Silver each)

Accordingly, with the Olympics coming up in Sochi in 2014, will Russia bounce back to take at least 1 Gold Medal?

Amy03
08-13-2011, 06:45 PM
i think it's a little to early to talk about that but one thing is for sure they will face some tough competition..

babayaga
08-13-2011, 06:55 PM
I voted yes, it looks like at least V/T and Sotnikova will be contenders for gold.

Vash01
08-13-2011, 07:31 PM
It's hard to tell who will win that gold, but I think it's a reasonable expectation that Russia will win at least one gold in Sochi. I am sure they are very motivated after the 2010 Olympics disaster, and will get the support from their govt.

judgejudy27
08-13-2011, 07:47 PM
They will win atleast one of pairs or womens, quite possibly both. They could be contenders for gold in the mens and dance by then, least likely the dance.

Vagabond
08-13-2011, 07:59 PM
In essence, ever since the Sabena Flight 548 air disaster in 1961, Russia has dominated figure skating for the most part right up to 2006.

This is rewriting history. The Soviet Union did dominate the pairs and dance disciplines throughout the 1960's, but it didn't even have a World medalist in singles until 1971. Russian (or, for that matter Ukrainian) domination of singles didn't really start until after the breakup of the Soviet Union in the early 1990's.

You could look it up. (http://www.eskatefans.com/skatabase/historical.html)

Vash01
08-13-2011, 10:00 PM
Russia/USSR has never dominated in ladies singles. By 2014 they may have some strong contenders. Their main competition might be from Japan. I suspect by that time the USA ladies will be strong too.

judgejudy27
08-13-2011, 10:06 PM
I dont see Japan being major contenders for the ladies in 2014. A 26 year old Ando wont be a contender by then, Asada sadly looks finished, and Murakami isnt really developing that well as a senior so far. If Japan is all Russia has to worry about for the ladies come 2014 then that is great news for them, give them the gold and silver now in that case.

Vash01
08-13-2011, 10:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGUaMHPaTHs

Here is Adelina Sotnikova's SP & LP at the nationals. She has the jumps, spins, flexibility. I don't see the maturity yet, but she has over 2 years to develop that. How old is she now?

sequinsgalore
08-13-2011, 10:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGUaMHPaTHs

Here is Adelina Sotnikova's SP & LP at the nationals. She has the jumps, spins, flexibility. I don't see the maturity yet, but she has over 2 years to develop that. How old is she now?

She is 15 years now - born one (1!) day too late to compete at this seasons Europeans and Worlds.

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julieann
08-13-2011, 11:30 PM
I think it's too early to predict anything now. I just hope Russia learns that they need to train all the athletes in case something happens to their "stars" that they didn't anticipate. If shortly before Sochi they have a dq or an injury or illness; they need to have everyone prepared to step in, and whoever steps in needs to have the same training as the top athletes in the nation not just the leftovers.

I also don't feel Canada was such a disaster as some think; some of those teams in particular hadn't been together for very long.

Maofan7
08-13-2011, 11:48 PM
This is rewriting history. The Soviet Union did dominate the pairs and dance disciplines throughout the 1960's, but it didn't even have a World medalist in singles until 1971. Russian (or, for that matter Ukrainian) domination of singles didn't really start until after the breakup of the Soviet Union in the early 1990's.

You could look it up. (http://www.eskatefans.com/skatabase/historical.html)

You will note that I said 'for the most part' (i.e. in general - they of course did not dominate each and every event. Instead, there dominance was in terms of medal numbers) - and the Olympic stats back that up:-

1964 1 Gold (Joint 2nd in medal table behind Germany who had a Gold and a Silver. Canada also won two medals - both Bronze - and in some medal tables they finished joint 1st with Germany)
1968 1 Gold, 1 Silver (Joint 1st in medal table with United States)
1972 1 Gold, 2 Silver (1st in medal table)
1976 2 Gold, 2 Silver (1st in medal table)
1980 2 Gold, 1 Silver 1 Bronze (1st in medal table)
1984 1 Gold, 1 Silver, 3 Bronze (1st in medal table)
1988 2 Gold, 2 Silver, 1 Bronze (1st in medal table)
1992 3 Gold, 1 Silver, 1 Bronze (1st in medal table)
1994 3 Gold, 2 Silver (1st in medal table)
1998 3 Gold, 2 Silver (1st in medal table)
2002 2 Gold, 3 Silver (1st in medal table)
2006 3 Gold, 1 Bronze (1st in medal table)

Hence, from 1968 to 2006, they were first in the medal table at every Olympics. Now that's what I call dominance. Vash01 makes a valid point in that they have been weaker in the ladies - but my point was that for the most part in general in terms of medal numbers across the board (i.e. all 4 events), Russia had dominated figure skating for around 40 years until they came unstuck at the last Olympics.

olympic
08-14-2011, 12:01 AM
If anything, V/T will grab gold in pairs.

I'm a little perplexed by Sotnikova being anointed a gold medal contender. She's not THAT dominating. Her score at Jr. Worlds was only 13 pts. or so higher than an imperfect Zawadzki

julieann
08-14-2011, 01:35 AM
I'm a little perplexed by Sotnikova being anointed a gold medal contender. She's not THAT dominating. Her score at Jr. Worlds was only 13 pts. or so higher than an imperfect Zawadzki

Also, some of those smaller ladies still have some growing to do and that may hurt their future.

judgejudy27
08-14-2011, 02:31 AM
If anything, V/T will grab gold in pairs.

I'm a little perplexed by Sotnikova being anointed a gold medal contender. She's not THAT dominating. Her score at Jr. Worlds was only 13 pts. or so higher than an imperfect Zawadzki

Who do you expect to win gold in Sochi if not Sotnikova. Kim seems bored and not even wanting to compete anymore. Mao is a big question mark at this point. The Americans arent likely to produce the gold medalist.