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Vagabond
08-15-2011, 09:37 PM
I agree he rose to the occasion. He went out there and completed all the jumps and spins. But he was surely assisted by the judges. Those PCS were out of control. 8+ for interpretation, while someone like Dornbush is only mid 7s? One judge even gave him 8.75 for IN, but Kozuka only 8.25. Please.

Who, other than Oda or Gachinski, would have been awarded the bronze medal with better judging? No one, as far as I can tell.

Kozuka beat Gachinski fair and square, and Dornbush (who didn't do any quadruple jumps) couldn't have beaten him without outscoring Chan on PCS.

Březina (the fourth-place finisher) ran out of steam in the last portion of his LP and fell twice. Takahashi (fifth) was very generously marked given that he fell in the LP. Amodio (seventh) didn't do any quads and didn't have particularly distinguished programs. Joubert (eighth) had a sloppy SP and missed his combo.

Jenna
08-15-2011, 09:53 PM
No, I'm not arguing over his bronze medal. I'm just saying his PCS could have been reduced to a where it should have been. He still would've had the bronze.

Vagabond
08-15-2011, 09:57 PM
No, I'm not arguing over his bronze medal. I'm just saying his PCS could have been reduced to a where it should have been. He still would've had the bronze.

Now you're talking! :)

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Frau Muller
08-16-2011, 06:29 PM
Very real possibility for gold in ladies and pairs, IMO. Oh...let's not forget the new "team" competition either. Russia will likely win that, as they'll have medals contenders in all 4 disciplines.

DarrellH
08-17-2011, 07:18 PM
Medals, yes. Gold medals, probably not.

Shame, too. Russia (including the Soviet years) was as dominant in pairs and dance, as the USA was in singles for awhile.

briancoogaert
08-17-2011, 07:31 PM
Hard to tell, but Volosozhar and Trankov are so impressive I can think about them as the next Olympic champions (and I love Savchenko&Szolkowy !!!)

Roxanne
08-17-2011, 07:45 PM
Very real possibility for gold in ladies and pairs, IMO. Oh...let's not forget the new "team" competition either. Russia will likely win that, as they'll have medals contenders in all 4 disciplines.

I agree. They will at least win the team event. And I think they have a very good chance at winning pairs. V/T are already almost as good as S/S. It's too early to tell what will happen with the ladies.

bek
08-18-2011, 06:27 AM
Medals, yes. Gold medals, probably not.

Shame, too. Russia (including the Soviet years) was as dominant in pairs and dance, as the USA was in singles for awhile.

I'm not really sure where your getting a probably not. The Russians have an extremely good chance at getting Pairs Gold in Sochi. The only team that compares with V/T is older than them, and not necessarily the best at handling the gold medal pressure. Perhaps the Chinese could contend but P/T are getting older and their are tons of puberty questions surrounding Sui/Han. And the Russians have a ton of young pairs teams.

They also have an extremely good shot at ladies gold with their crop of talented young juniors.

FarFarAway
08-18-2011, 06:38 AM
their are tons of puberty questions surrounding Sui/Han. And the Russians have a ton of young pairs teams.

They also have an extremely good shot at ladies gold with their crop of talented young juniors.

Puberty questions are reserved solely for Sui/Han and can never be applied to the crop of Russian talented young juniors?:)

a56
08-18-2011, 07:08 AM
Hopefully, the ladies gold goes to Russia for the first time ever in history. They have a great shot at the pairs gold, and who knows about ice dance. I have hopes that Ilinykh and Katsalapov will somehow win the gold. You never know with the Olympics being two and a half years away and the judges choosing to dump or elevate dance teams with little prior warning.

bek
08-18-2011, 01:29 PM
Puberty questions are reserved solely for Sui/Han and can never be applied to the crop of Russian talented young juniors?:)

Actually it was a typo to say Juniors because except for one Russia's pairs talent is in the Senior ranks. But most of Russia's young pairs teams are past puberty.

Vash01
08-20-2011, 06:12 PM
What's happened to the Russian men? It's hard to see even a medal contender among them. If Artur Gachinski is their best (and I do like him), they are in trouble. Hopefully a few more will emerge in a year or two, but this is where I don't expect Russia to win a medal. BTW I don't expect Plushenko to be physically strong enough to compete by Sochi. I hope I am wrong.

judgejudy27
08-20-2011, 07:35 PM
A 31 year old Plushenko would have very little chance of a medal, and Gachinski I agree isnt a good bet. Yet it is looking like those are their 2 best options which doesnt speak well to their chances.

FarFarAway
08-20-2011, 07:51 PM
It's hard to see even a medal contender among them.
Because there aren't since 2006. Lutai and Voronov gave a chance for hope, but...

I guess there will be some in the coming years, since we've got some juniors who are quite talented, but they are definitely not for Sochi. Voronov will be back this season, Menshov, Gachinski - that is all we have right now, hope or no hope.

Vash01
08-20-2011, 08:12 PM
I miss the golden era (pun is intended) of Petrenko (former USSR), Urmanov, Kulik, Yagudin, Plushenko. That's 5 in a row!