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Frau Muller
07-14-2011, 02:24 PM
Got a couple more:

Kanako Murakami skating Dorothy Hamill's "Do the Bear-cat"

Johnny Weir skating Dorothy Hamill's "Take Back the Mink" :)

Frau Muller
07-14-2011, 02:27 PM
Just one mo':

Ryan Bradley skating to xxxxxxx (fill-in any Classic Candeloro routine, e.g., "Rocky")

07-14-2011, 02:49 PM
I'd love to see any current pair try to emulate G&G's unison and gorgeous lines - pick any of their mature programs and reproduce it.

My point clearly is that it couldn't be done - no one has that training or control any more. But I'd love to see some pair try it and learn from it.

Frau Muller
07-14-2011, 03:10 PM
Willowway, you are correct. The same philosophy could be applied to any of today's eligible single skaters who opt to skate any Scott Hamilton or Kurt Browning routines with the fast-changing footwork down a straight line. The reason why I mentioned Keegan Messing as my 'hope' for trying a Scott routine is because his footwork shows so many of Scott's traits. Keegan is a rarity...but I'm hardly saying that Keegan is anywhere close to Scott's perfection at this time. Keegan has the potential & the natural on-ice personality when he is 'on.'

07-14-2011, 05:33 PM
I fear, however, that I'm the only one who really loved Revolutions...

Not at all. Kulik's Krew is full of folks who loved it and love it still. It was a marvelous SP for the 6.0 system and done flawlessly in Nagano. The choice music (so interesting) was Ilia's father's notion. Good input Dad!

07-15-2011, 05:18 AM
Not at all. Kulik's Krew is full of folks who loved it and love it still. It was a marvelous SP for the 6.0 system and done flawlessly in Nagano. The choice music (so interesting) was Ilia's father's notion. Good input Dad!

Oh, excellent! It just seems sometimes like whenever people talk about Nagano they only mention RiB!

Ilia's Dad made an AWESOME suggestion. I love it.

07-15-2011, 05:36 AM
Here's another summer-fun trash-can topic. I was watching some of my old tapes/DVDs from the 1980s 'Landover' World Pros competitions this past weekend. The 1985 edition included two superb 'classics' from Robin Cousins: 'Horizon' (tech program) and the tap-dancing carefree 'Satan Takes a Holiday' (artistic). As I watched Robin I thought "Gee, I'd love to see Evan Lysacek skating to 'Satan Takes a Holiday' someday!" Both Olympic champs have similar tall, long body types.

Just as ballet dancers reprise famous dances...why can't great figure skaters occasionally try to perform some of the wonderful routines of the past? So here's my question: Which great routine(s) of the past would you like to see performed by a current eligible (or recently-retired) skater and who would that skater be?

I've always liked the idea of "repertory skating". Even if it wasn't performed publicly, I think most skaters would benefit from learning classic, groundbreaking programs. If nothing else, learning the performing aspects of those programs would help young skaters learn to project to the audience and portray emotion on ice.

For example - Dance teams learning some of Torvill and Dean's OSP's and even Bolero would be a great learning experience.

I also agree with you about ballet. I love watching great ballets - Sleeping Beauty, Swan Lake etc. The analogy could be made that great skating programs could be interpreted over and over again and enjoyed every time.

07-15-2011, 05:54 AM
This is a great idea for a tribute show, to have skaters recreate iconic programs that their mentors skated. Sure, it kind of seems like sacrilege, but it’s also a beautiful way of connecting the past and present. It happens all the time in ballet that a piece is created for one dancer, and it lives on in repertory. The original dancer isn’t forgotten; if anything it helps the dancer’s legacy live on.

Here are my picks:

Janet Lynn’s ‘Afternoon of a Faun’ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvElljzi7rE) performed by Michelle Kwan
John Curry’s 1976 long program (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z79TMsYRnEc) performed by Daisuke Takahashi
Ekaterina Gordeeva’s ‘Fragile’ show program in 1999 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1x7eWh0_iA) performed by Alissa Czisny
Dorothy Hamill’s 1976 LP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HudUgLIMdW0) performed by Rachael Flatt
Brian Boitano 1988 LP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Rpt0dF9zw) performed by Evan Lysacek
Katarina Witt's Carmen 1988 LP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rMfIyX4rM) performed by Carolina Kostner
Kurt Browning 1994 Casablanca LP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SxtqOEi6og) performed by Jeremy Abbott
Michelle Kwan’s 1998 Rachmaninoff SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHfgjszz_Tk) performed by Mao Asada
Sasha Cohen’s 2006 SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELFerA2QZX8) performed by Mirai Nagasu

If nothing else, trying out another skater’s style would be an amazing learning experience for these skaters. Sasha Cohen’s sass fits Mirai, Michelle’s lyrical style and connection to the audience would be great for Mao, and Ekaterina Gordeeva’s show program ‘Fragile’ has a sense of inner and growing strength that’s just right for where Alissa is right now.

07-15-2011, 07:02 AM
Patrick Chan dong Ulrich Salchow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-vqyLXiYLk&feature=related)
Ryan Bradley doing Gillis Grafström (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhphUWTBi7w)
Maxim Trankov and Tatiana Volosozhar doing Maribel Owen and Dudley Richards (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qICTuC1SeWk)
Aliona Savchenko and Robin Szolkowy doing Maxie Herber and Ernst Baier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fZrLU5-BBk&NR=1)
Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir doing Diane Towler and Bernard Ford (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99mI5GD9qCk&NR=1)
Mao Asada doing Beatrix Schuba (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SscrUDzeDcs)
Yuna Kim doing Cecilia Colledge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOq6pFqMY1Q&feature=related)


07-15-2011, 01:08 PM
I like the idea of a tribute show with the full blessing of the original performer / choreographer ... but generally I prefer nothing great ever get the 'remake' treatment.

I just don't see how it can end well generally, without a bit disparaging to either parties at the end of the day. The good taste line is so fine, it would take an amazing artist to realize it.

07-15-2011, 01:39 PM
I would love to see Mao doing a rendition of Lu Chen's "Spring Breeze" SP. The quiet and lyrical quality of that program fits her well. :)

Frau Muller
07-15-2011, 01:52 PM
I agree that it would be tough to actually do this in the context of a show or competition...but I'd pay A MINT to see Alena Leonova tackle 'Satan Takes a Holiday'...can't you just PICTURE it? Even more so than my original thought about Evan trying it.

07-15-2011, 06:32 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing someone else try "Revolutions" (Kulik's Olympic SP), just because the music is so unusual, but I'd rather see him do it again! (And the scary part is, he could probably just about complete it at the same technical level!) I fear, however, that I'm the only one who really loved Revolutions...:(

i loved it.

07-18-2011, 06:03 PM
I don't think I'd like to see today's skaters imitating skaters of the past, but it would be interesting to see some of them work together. For example, I wonder what kind of choreography Stephane Lambiel and Robin Cousins would come up with if they put their heads together.

Frau Muller
07-18-2011, 06:10 PM
I don't see this as "skaters imitating skaters of the past" at all. Pavlova's "The Swan" and Nijinsky's "Spectre de la Rose" have been danced by countless interpreters since the originators. Truly first-class skating numbers, like ballets, can become great numbers via different interpretations by subsequent performers.