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nubka
07-11-2011, 08:04 PM
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2079800,00.html?hpt=hp_t2

Sad. :(

I know most will think this is great, but to me, a library without books just seems so...empty...

mindy74
07-11-2011, 08:49 PM
I think it makes more sense in an academic setting, as Drexel's is (my alma mater). I'm a public librarian, and while we've definitely seen a higher demand for e-books, most of these people still want to check out "regular" books too. I don't foresee most public libraries (especially bigger ones, like mine) becoming bookless in the near future. There may be a few here and there who experiment with it, though.

The major area that books will be leaving is reference. I still go the reference stacks once in awhile, but for the most part, subscription databases have taken over. It's sad because our library has a wonderful, huge collection and it's hard to let it go but it's just not used like it was even 5 years ago. Students just prefer using the databases, and they can access them 24/7 from home, and the materials often comes straight from the books--so who can blame them? Of course we are keeping our local history and anything rare/valuable but most of it will go into our circulating collection.

Andrushka
07-11-2011, 08:49 PM
It's not great.At all. :( I don't want electronic I want Books!No batteries,turn my own freakin pages books!

Satellitegirl
07-11-2011, 08:54 PM
I like using my ereader for environmental purposes, but I really miss holding a book in my hand and seeing the progress as I turn the pages.

aliceanne
07-11-2011, 09:05 PM
I don't own an e-reader but it would certainly make sense for college textbooks. I remember buying all those heavy expensive books that went out of date so fast you couldn't always re-sell them at the end of the term.

Prancer
07-11-2011, 09:06 PM
I don't foresee most public libraries (especially bigger ones, like mine) becoming bookless in the near future. There may be a few here and there who experiment with it, though.

Yes, I think it will be a long time before public libraries go bookless. There is still far too much in print and far too little in electronic form for that to happen. Publishers still aren't sure what to do about electronic borrowing and some fo the big houses don't allow it at all.

GarrAarghHrumph
07-11-2011, 09:13 PM
One of the unis where I teach has a 100% online library. Since they have multiple campuses spread out, and they offer many online classes in addition to on-campus classes, it makes sense. And for reference, it allows for more up-to-date materials.

Aussie Willy
07-11-2011, 11:22 PM
Having worked in a library years ago, I could understand why libraries wouldn't want to keep lots of reference books on shelves. They are expensive and these days go out of date too quickly. And you can find everything pretty much online.

Although I do remember our family having copies of Childcraft and World Book encyclopedia when we were kids. I loved those books and read them a lot.

I really only go to my library now to get DVDs.

mindy74
07-12-2011, 03:15 AM
Yes, I think it will be a long time before public libraries go bookless. There is still far too much in print and far too little in electronic form for that to happen. Publishers still aren't sure what to do about electronic borrowing and some fo the big houses don't allow it at all.

Exactly. Lots of the publishers only allow libraries to buy a certain number of titles, and also how many times titles can be "checked out" before the license expires. There is a lot to be worked out. Add to that library budgets being cut massively in a lot of places, and it's going to be difficult to meet demand.

I will say after this past holiday season, we've seen a massive increase in questions from people about how to get the ebooks from Overdrive (the vendor we use to provide e-books to our patrons) onto Nooks and iPads. Finally Amazon is getting into the groove and they will be able to be read on Kindles by the Fall, hopefully! I loved when patrons would act like we were to blame because they couldn't get the free library e-books on their Kindle. Like it was the library's decision!

genegri
07-12-2011, 05:18 AM
My parents both used to go to library for days on end. It was just part of their research.

By the time I was in college and grad school, most students only looked for references online. Very few bothered to go to the actual library. Some would even use google as their primary research tool.

I keep hearing funny stories that grad PhD students these days only know how to do reseach online, but many publications prior to mid 90's are not indexed into online databases yet. So these students don't know the work had been done and they are writing papers over the same topics that were already researched and published over 20 years ago.

BigB08822
07-12-2011, 06:45 AM
I don't think it should be called a library. Come up with another name for it, haha

Japanfan
07-12-2011, 06:56 AM
I like using my ereader for environmental purposes, but I really miss holding a book in my hand and seeing the progress as I turn the pages.

When you take books out of the library you're sharing/recycling, so I think it's okay from an environmental standpoint. It's also more economical than buying either hard copy books or e-books.

My library is starting to offer e-books but I agree that it will be a while before the book industry become completely electronic.

I love holding books in my hand and seeing my progress as well. I like being surrounded by books in my office, as well and being able to pick up a book and flip through the pages. And I like the art on book covers as well.

Not all technological change is for the better IMO. Vinyl was the best for music and record jackets were such an art - so carefully designed and sometimes all the lyrics would be printed out on the back of a jacket or inside of a double jacket record. The covers were part of the experience. All that has been lost with digital.

GarrAarghHrumph
07-12-2011, 02:10 PM
I keep hearing funny stories that grad PhD students these days only know how to do reseach online, but many publications prior to mid 90's are not indexed into online databases yet. So these students don't know the work had been done and they are writing papers over the same topics that were already researched and published over 20 years ago.

This is one of the ways I find plagiarism - when an undergrad student references a journal article from, say, 1964... I then ask them to provide me with that article. Because I know they simply used Wikipedia as their source, and wrote down some of the references listed there, and they never went to a library or accessed this journal, which is only available offline... and in one particular case, only in Japanese. ;)

stanhope
07-12-2011, 02:22 PM
Not all technological change is for the better IMO. Vinyl was the best for music and record jackets were such an art - so carefully designed and sometimes all the lyrics would be printed out on the back of a jacket or inside of a double jacket record. The covers were part of the experience. All that has been lost with digital.

I couldn't agree more about vinyl and the fact that not all technology is inherently better. Vinyl is making a comeback as I see many more records being sold at music stores these days than I did in the late 90's/early 2000's when digital was the newest hot thing on the market. I imagine books will always stay because people like them. I know I will never buy an e-reader. I see its uses for travel and not wanting to lug around a lot of books, but even for college students, it is actually much more work, in my opinion, to take separate notes where you could just highlight your textbooks and make notes in the margins.

JoyCo
07-12-2011, 02:29 PM
This is one of the ways I find plagiarism - when an undergrad student references a journal article from, say, 1964... I then ask them to provide me with that article. Because I know they simply used Wikipedia as their source, and wrote down some of the references listed there, and they never went to a library or accessed this journal, which is only available offline... and in one particular case, only in Japanese. ;)

I alternate between sadness that a student just didn't understand what she was doing and evil glee when it takes me five seconds to identify entire bibliographies that were cut and pasted into a paper. (Tip off: the course focuses on APA style and those Google bibliographies definitely are not in that style.) The sad students haven't developed any reasonable research skills but were initially proud that they found anything on the topic. Those who engender evil glee have usally spent the quarter stubbornly submitting minimal work while demanding stellar grades.