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Maofan7
10-02-2011, 05:08 AM
I would recommend the IPAD everytime, but the Kindle is pretty good too

modern_muslimah
10-02-2011, 08:50 PM
While that's true, I wouldn't count on that. B&N has taken an extremely laissez-faire approach to people rooting their Nook Colors because B&N knows it's a selling point. Amazon, however, is likely to not take the same approach because they are developing tablets. Why would they want you to buy a cheap Kindle and have it be a functional tablet when they want to sell you a tablet instead?

I meant to say Kindle Fire. I think hackers are probably already trying to figure out to root the Kindle Fire to make it into a tablet. Amazon seems to already expect this (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393740,00.asp#fbid=_LHPDKJqEJP).



Alot of people are buying of the ipad and imacs not due to the price but due the quality of the product and what the product can do for them.

Amazon created their "own" browser and OS so they could prevent hacking.

The Fire runs on Android like the Nook Color. That will probably make it easier to hack. I don't think the unique browser is going to prevent hacking on the fire


Amazon's main goal to create a venue for their products and services, i.e Amazon Instant Video. If hackers could hack into the Amazon's video library and cloud server, it would be mayhem.

I'm not talking about users hacking into Amazon's mainframe, just users hacking the Fire to make it more like a regular Android tablet.

Prancer
10-03-2011, 01:10 AM
B&N just lowered the price on the Nook 1 with Wi-Fi to $89. :D

Spinner
10-03-2011, 04:50 AM
B&N just lowered the price on the Nook 1 with Wi-Fi to $89. :D

That price drop happened Monday, along with all the covers that fit the 1st edition for $15. Keep in mind though, it's the WiFi only Nook, not the one with 3G. They're also "all sales final" (covers too). Bonus though, you can get $10 off that Nook with the purchase of a new B&N membership (or by renewing your current membership). So, for around $100 you can have a new device and cover. They'll probably sell well for the holidays.

DORISPULASKI
10-03-2011, 05:09 PM
I received a Kindle for Christmas, and have enjoyed using it to read free books from places like Baen books and project Gutenberg. It's very light weight, has adjustable orientation and fonts, and will read the books to you without your purchasing an audio book, should you want to do such a thing. The computer generated voice is not too annoying.

The reason my husband chose the Kindle over the Nook was that the Kindle required no classes to learn to operate and the Nook did.

I also found no need to look for classes.

However, I do recommend buying a Kindle case with the Kindle. And do not fall asleep with the Kindle and roll over on it. The plastic screen will be damaged. However, for one year after purchase, Amazon replaces it without giving you any problems, other than that you must mail the old one back--however, it's at their expense. The customer service desk had less than 1 minute wait every time I called it and the service reps spoke excellent idiomatic American English. The new Kindle arrived the day after I called in my problem. Downloading my books from my account was no problem; however, I had to replace project gutenberg books from where I had stored them on my computer.

The UPS label to return the old Kindle must be printed from an email the customer service rep sends you. The way they asked whether I had a printer makes me believe that otherwise they would have printed the label for me.

All in all, relatively painless.

My only real complaint about Kindle is that trying to use a Physics text with one is a true pain. I'm tutoring a friend's daughter, and flipping back and forth between the text, exercises, and appendices is so much more annoying that a real, full size book.

Alexa5
10-03-2011, 05:16 PM
For me I knew I was getting a Nook because I am much more apt to buy from BN than Amazon. Also because of the access to library ebooks, etc.

I thought I wanted a color and bought one, but I had to return it for the regular e-reader (the newer one that came out this summer). I just could not tolerate the backlight on the color Nook at all. It drove my eyes crazy. I don't have issues with computers and such, but I just couldn't handle the reader in color. I also quickly realized I didn't need any of the extra features of the color version....I really just wanted to buy and read books. I use my computer for internet access most of the time, so didn't need an extra means to do that.

I love the regular version.... I bought some books right away and had no issues reading on it--it was much better for reading in my opinion. It is all just so easy and it is nice to have a library of books on a little tablet. I also wanted to add that having wifi only is not an issue at all for me (I had worried about that originally). I can easily buy a fair number of books from home and have several ready for wherever I was that didn't have wifi access.

NancyNC
10-03-2011, 05:38 PM
The reason my husband chose the Kindle over the Nook was that the Kindle required no classes to learn to operate and the Nook did.

The Nook requires classes???

modern_muslimah
10-03-2011, 05:49 PM
The reason my husband chose the Kindle over the Nook was that the Kindle required no classes to learn to operate and the Nook did.

I had the Nook classic for a few months and I never took any classes to use it. It was pretty simple to use and comparative to the Kindle (I tried one in Target a while back). I know B&N offers Nook classes at their stores for people who want to learn how to do things with their nook that may not be obvious when you take it out of the box but you don't have to take them.

Honestly, I think all e-ink readers are pretty simple to use. I own a Sony now and I find it just as easy to read on as a Kindle or a Nook. Putting books on it requires more steps since it doesn't have wifi or 3g but even this isn't very hard. I just hook it up to my computer via USB and then sync my e-books with the reader.

DORISPULASKI
10-03-2011, 05:52 PM
You will notice upthread that B&N offered classes at the store. Apparently, some people feel they need them.

Ski found the Nook unusable without some directions when he tried it out at Borders last year, shopping for me. He got the Kindle to work immediately. I've never tried the Nook, but I can't imagine anyone needing classes for it.

VIETgrlTerifa
10-03-2011, 06:34 PM
The Nook requires classes???

No. Barnes and Noble offered complimentary tech support and classes on location for those who needed it.

When I worked at BN, a large demographic of people who were using nooks were the elderly who have never heard of things like Wifi or didn't know how to create a BN.com account or put their credit card on file, etc.

It's just a service to help people. Most people can figure out how to use a nook on their own with no classes. Like most devices, all one has to do is play with it to figure it out.

Doris, I think you're either thinking of the Kobo, or you mean Barnes and Noble as Borders never carried the nook.

modern_muslimah
10-03-2011, 07:38 PM
The bezel on the original Kobo reader (which like VIETgrlTerifa pointed out was sold at Borders) was harder to navigate than the side buttons of the Nook and the Kindle. The new Kobo is touchscreen so it should be easier to use. I haven't used it, so I don't know.

DORISPULASKI
10-03-2011, 07:52 PM
Strictly speaking, I have no idea where Ski tried out both the Nook and the Kindle at the same place, since he was buying a Christmas present for me ;)

I do know it wasn't B&N, since he would have had to drive 50 miles to find one.

It might have been Books a Million instead of Borders, since one is also close to our house. Just asked him. He tried it there, and describes it thus: "It didn't work."

Prancer
10-03-2011, 08:21 PM
When I worked at BN, a large demographic of people who were using nooks were the elderly who have never heard of things like Wifi or didn't know how to create a BN.com account or put their credit card on file, etc.

Yes, every time I see a class at B&N, it's full of elderly people who want to learn how to sideload library books.

For what it's worth, I've never had a bit of trouble getting my Nook to work. If you can work a cell phone, you can surely work a Nook--much easier :lol:.


Strictly speaking, I have no idea where Ski tried out both the Nook and the Kindle at the same place, since he was buying a Christmas present for me ;)

I do know it wasn't B&N, since he would have had to drive 50 miles to find one.

It might have been Books a Million instead of Borders, since one is also close to our house. Just asked him. He tried it there, and describes it thus: "It didn't work."

Um, it is highly unlikely that a bookstore other than B&N would have a Nook on display, and even less likely that one would have both a Nook and Kindle. Why advertise for the competition?

It's more likely that Ski went to a place like Best Buy, which sells just about all the readers.

VIETgrlTerifa
10-03-2011, 09:03 PM
Books-A-Million sells nooks now, which was always weird to me since BN is their competitor. However, they wouldn't have had a kindle. Like Prancer said, he was probably at Best Buy or Wal-Mart.

Spinner
10-03-2011, 09:47 PM
Yes, every time I see a class at B&N, it's full of elderly people who want to learn how to sideload library books.

For what it's worth, I've never had a bit of trouble getting my Nook to work. If you can work a cell phone, you can surely work a Nook--much easier :lol:
This is a huge difference for many people, that personal touch. And to reiterate, classes are not required to learn a Nook. If Prancer can figure it out... :P

Target will begin selling Nooks soon too.