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Jenna
07-09-2011, 08:00 PM
Also, I remember that the PCS numbers indicated that the judges were ready to give it to Takahashi and Lambiel had they delivered, but I'm unsure of that.

Right. Takahashi rightfully had the highest PCS in the free skate, followed by Lambiel.

Twilight1
07-09-2011, 08:15 PM
2004 who was on the podium again for ice dance after N&K? I can't even remember. Was it Belbin & Agosto? lol Shows how much I cared about that year after B&K retired/ split up.

I didn't have a problem with the top 2 teams in '98 Oly's. I di have a problem with A&P winning Oly bronze. I understand B&K screwed up on the GW and their OD was crap so I guess the only other option would be L&A being bronze medalists.

Don't get me wrong, I loved A&P's program but barely doing anything but kneeling on ice for the 1st minute of your program doesn't deserve a bronze in my books, never mind faltering in the OD to boot.

pani
07-09-2011, 08:22 PM
2004 who was on the podium again for ice dance after N&K? I can't even remember. Was it Belbin & Agosto? lol Shows how much I cared about that year after B&K retired/ split up.

N-K won with "Pink panter" over Denkova-Staviisky Hendel masterpiece FD.

And 2006 ECh in Lion. Audience were so unhappy with N-K gold andDelobel-Shonfelder 4th place

eurodance2001
07-09-2011, 08:30 PM
N-K won with "Pink panter" over Denkova-Staviisky Hendel masterpiece FD.

And 2006 ECh in Lion. Audience were so unhappy with N-K gold andDelobel-Shonfelder 4th place

The audience barely clapped for N-K and G-G, but roared for D-V anytime they had the chance and then booed the tech controller and tech specialist and everyone else that they felt had a hand in D-V finishing third.. LOL.. I loved it.. NB-K and G-G kinda "knew" they just weren't going to get any love... How about the 2000 or 2001 NHK where a sloppy Slutskaya beat and clean and sharp Butryskaya? That was ridiculous...

Twilight1
07-09-2011, 08:30 PM
When I think of D&S I think of their '03 OD to Baroque music. That to this day is one of my all time favourite OD's ever.

escaflowne9282
07-09-2011, 08:42 PM
1999 Worlds pairs result comes to mind.
B/S made mistakes but were awarded gold over S/Z who skated 2 clean programs. At the time, S/P were not even in the picture and S/Z were considered closest rivals of B/S.

Actually, S&Z had a hand down on their throw in the SP and weren't clean.

I thought that this result was fair either way, but was surprised that B&S won so decisively (7-2 IIRC) what was so strange was that it was the North American judges who really seemed to ream S&Z ( a 5.7 for technical merit from the American judge:confused:). Pretty much all of the judges/ coaches /skaters I knew who used to post on the boards/newsgroups/mailing lists back in the day were pretty adamant that the judges got it right.

I 'd have to say 1994 Olympic Ladies was a competition where I was happy with the results at the time, but looking back on it ...it REALLY does not hold up

Jenya
07-09-2011, 09:02 PM
The audience barely clapped for N-K and G-G, but roared for D-V anytime they had the chance and then booed the tech controller and tech specialist and everyone else that they felt had a hand in D-V finishing third.. LOL.. I loved it.. NB-K and G-G kinda "knew" they just weren't going to get any love... How about the 2000 or 2001 NHK where a sloppy Slutskaya beat and clean and sharp Butryskaya? That was ridiculous...

2006 Euros was the most memorable (and not in a good way!) medal ceremony I have ever experienced. I was actually afraid for Bob Horen and everyone else involved. :lol: I wasn't crazy about the results, but Delobel & Schoenfelder did have a fall in the compulsory. Even with a fall, I think they were superior to Grushina & Goncharov, and Drobiazko & Vanagas certainly should have been higher.

kwanette
07-09-2011, 09:37 PM
When I think of D&S I think of their '03 OD to Baroque music. That to this day is one of my all time favourite OD's ever.

Me, too. It was a masterpiece.

Triple Butz
07-09-2011, 10:01 PM
1987 NHK. It's absolutely criminal that Witt won over Harding and Ito.

2008 US Nationals: Men and Women.

2001/2002 GPF. Lots of arrange outcomes.

Triple Butz
07-09-2011, 10:06 PM
Who should've beaten Evan? Even jump king Plushenko faltered with several shaky landings and Takahashi had two errors. .

Takahashi. Evan also had two errors on both 3A's that were way overlooked by the technical panel. His slow skating, rushed positions, and complete lack of rhythm do not justify PCS scores anywhere near the other top men.

kia_4EverOnIce
07-09-2011, 10:14 PM
N-K won with "Pink panter" over Denkova-Staviisky Hendel masterpiece FD.

And Denkova-Staviski should have won that IMO. I still believe that this competition opened the way to N-K gold in torino06: if D/S had won this, N/K would have gone far behind in the next two years... :blah:


When I think of D&S I think of their '03 OD to Baroque music. That to this day is one of my all time favourite OD's ever.


Fantastic, I saw it live and it was just amazing :)

I agree on Yukari higher in 04, Slutskaya gold in 2002 Olympics, some of Drobiazko&Vanagas (higher, please!).

For 2010 men, I've stopped thinking that Plushenko should have been OGM, and I'm trying to forget one of the most absurd competition of recent years :D (not only because of Evan-Evgeni, but also for Weir who should have been above Chan, and Daisuke and Steph, whom I loved and :( )

Amy03
07-09-2011, 10:44 PM
for me the most absurd competition ever was 2011 worlds women!!!

I will never forget how strange the judging was that day, there were several call that were questionable ad other skaters who received full credit for something that should have been downgraded.. and the PCS score for some skaters was simply ridiculous, I could continue with a lot off more things that just was outrageous including asada's downgrade o her 3A that diffidently didn't deserve that ad her low PCS and i know that her condition wasn't good and that she had focused on changing her technique this season but her performance was definitely better then what she got..

Macassar88
07-09-2011, 11:09 PM
I have a bunch of issues with judging, but many of them have already been mentioned.

1996: I think that Chen Lu should have won instead of Michelle Kwan. Although I think that Michelle delivered a great performance, Chen Lu's program was perfect. Although Michelle Kwan had an extra triple toe and Chen had an extra double axel, Chen also had a harder combination (Triple flip double toe in comparison to triple toe triple toe)
But even if you give Kwan the technical edge, Chen Lu definitely deserved the artistic edge.

caseyedwards
07-09-2011, 11:18 PM
Even with Plushenko having "shaky landings" it's not like any real technical errors were involved. Certainly not too the point where judges would overlook the fact that in Vancouver he was the only one there he could do a 3A and a 4/3. He was the last skater. No one else came close to what he did on jumps there. Elvis Stojko said they killed figure skating but if they did anything was really kill any future of doing quads. Or if you don't think that is right they took away all motivation for learning them and then putting them in your programs. The worst thing was people saying Takahashi made a horrible terrible error in trying one. That was the worst. Not trying or doing a quad Olympics should be bad not doing one or attempting one. You can blame COP for this but the judges still have lots of power. There was no way the winner of 2010 should have been quadless.

Macassar88
07-09-2011, 11:36 PM
Also, I just watched Yukari Nakano's 2008 FS, and she definitely should have gotten gold or silver. Kostner shouldn't have been near the podium with that shaky skate.