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SamuraiK
08-04-2011, 03:52 PM
So Sui & Han are doing JGP AGAIN after winning Jr. Worlds two times.. *sighs*

Ziggy
08-04-2011, 06:22 PM
So Sui & Han are doing JGP AGAIN after winning Jr. Worlds two times.. *sighs*

And winning JGPF in the preceding season and placing 3rd in the GPF last season. :P

Marco
08-05-2011, 04:58 AM
With China having only 2 spots at Worlds and P&T and Z&Z staying around, they probably are only aiming to go to Jr Worlds anyway.

(Didn't they go to both JGP and GP last season? Can't they do the same this time?)

SamuraiK
08-05-2011, 06:51 AM
Yes, they can, but its totally pointless IMO. They need to improve by competing with much tougher fields. And i don't think the world spot is out of the question, they could beat one of the veteran teams at 4CC (they shoul've beat P&T at COC last year as much as it pains me to say it). The politicking of Bin Yao is a big card against them though.

julieann
08-05-2011, 07:30 AM
S/H should get another GP spot and even if they happen to make it to the GPF, a medal is out of reach this year. They only got one last year due to the unfortunate injuries and withdraws of many of the top teams, including the Zhangs. They have a long way go before their scores compare to what P/T and the Zhangs have received. They should take advantage of the junior competitions as long as they can, and do the senior competitions where they are able.

Marco
08-05-2011, 08:20 AM
Yes, they can, but its totally pointless IMO.

Well, there's the prize money and the ISU points.

And they could use more chances to get that 4sal throw properly ratified.

Ziggy
08-06-2011, 12:49 AM
Well I know the national politics are against them but I really hope they kick Zhangs' ass.

And I expect them to be beating P/T on the TES, at least.

Macassar88
08-06-2011, 02:57 AM
Well I know the national politics are against them but I really hope they kick Zhangs' ass.

And I expect them to be beating P/T on the TES, at least.

Well, P and T are working on a quad sal as well, and both teams (P/T and S/H) suck at SBS jumps.

luCN
08-11-2011, 02:25 AM
http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2011-08-10/01115696131.shtml

PT announced on Aug. 8th that they won't compete the GPs.They'll only participate the nation games and the Worlds.
Their SP will be "Paso",a Paso Doble pro with music from a film OST.

oleada
08-11-2011, 03:35 AM
Well, I'm glad they announced it early, that way other teams can prepare to receive another spot.

julieann
08-11-2011, 03:58 AM
Well, I'm glad they announced it early, that way other teams can prepare to receive another spot.

I agree, I'm still sad though :(

SamuraiK
08-11-2011, 05:40 AM
Booh!! Sad about Pand & Tong.. This means Sui&Han will get COC most definetly though.

luCN
08-11-2011, 06:14 AM
well,I think it's good for them.They're not young any more,and they have some old injuries.They should have a rest if they want to continue...
in other articals,PT said they're very tired last year for so many competitions after the Olympics.they don't have time to rest,or polish the programs.They want to have a rest,learn new things,make the new programs better,then come back to the competitions.I think it's a wise choice.

UDelpairs2012
08-14-2011, 02:05 AM
Does anyone know how many of the young Chinese pair teams are eligable for the Youth Olympics in January? They have two spots but I wonder who will be filling the spots

feraina
08-14-2011, 05:07 AM
Zhang/Wang will not attend CoC due to her recent injury:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1174917780

So now China has two host picks open for CoC, and Yao Bin said they will be given to "more junior teams." I was worried that with P/T withdrawing, Yao Bin would've given the spot to Dong/Wu instead, despite Sui/Han having much more talent and better results, with the excuse that S/H are already doing JGP's (D/W are Yao's students, while S/H are Luan's students; Luan is Yao's former partner and rival pairs coach).

Now with Z/W also withdrawing, I think they will give S/H and D/W each a spot, since the next 3 or 4 pairs in National standing are all Luan's students. I hope this also means that they will let S/H out of having to compete in JGP again -- there's nothing in it for them, except for Chinese federation politics. :blah::blah::blah:

I mean, ideally the second spot should go to Yu/Jin instead, who were JGPF bronze medalists last season, Chinese Nationals silver medalists behind Sui/Han, and had a SB of 141 at the junior level. Dong/Wu were only 4th at Nationals, with a SB of 137 at the senior level. But I'm afraid the politics do not favor Yu/Jin right now. I'll be content if at least S/H won't be passed over for a CoC slot, because they have a decent chance of getting into GPF again. And after all, Yu/Jin don't really have a chance for getting into GPF, and one more season on the JGP could be good for them. They can definitely work on their PCS and maturity, as well as basic skating skills. Besides, perhaps they will get into Grophee Bompard as alternates...