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Ziggy
11-09-2011, 02:32 AM
ETA: That's the wrong answer. They were assigned to Skate Canada. Split couples aren't guaranteed two spots, so they should have dropped off the alternates list after their SC assignment. Hubbell/Donahoe, on the other hand, won Nebelhorn, and they should be added to the bottom of the list after Top 75.

Ok, got it now. So ISU is indeed doing whatever the hell they want. :rolleyes:

And same happened to Dube/Wolfe, right? Because they got a second spot too.

kwanfan1818
11-09-2011, 02:37 AM
Dube/Wolfe got a host (replacement for TBD) spot, which seems to mean that they were still eligible for a spot as a split couple. Same with Denney/Coughlin.

Sylvia
11-09-2011, 02:39 AM
Maybe Chock/Bates's 4th place at Skate Canada had something to do with their 2nd assignment to TEB?

kwanfan1818
11-09-2011, 02:44 AM
Maybe Chock/Bates's 4th place at Skate Canada had something to do with their 2nd assignment to TEB?

There's nothing in the announcement that would have taken it into consideration their placement even if they had they won SC. According to the announcement, placement only is a factor 1. to determine if a split couple is eligible to be considered for assignments from the alternates list (top 12) and 2. if the skater(s) win one of the Fall senior B's, in which case they are added to the bottom of the list after the Top 75 skaters (who've met the minimum scores, unless they are a host pick replacement).

DimaToe
11-09-2011, 02:45 AM
This just drives me insane, teams like Litchman/Copely, and Gerbolt/Enbert should have two assignments, the fact that they're being ignored for unproven teams is just unfair. Yeah give D/C. C/B ect. one assingments, but two over teams that have "waited their turn" and produced GP qualifying results is just irritating, but i guess we now know one thing,

"Want 2 GP assingments?, just end your current partnership :D !!" :mad:

blademate
11-12-2011, 08:42 PM
this is all so confusing to me, but I am still trying to understand it... to help me out, could somebreak down who is next in line for the pairs, dance, ladies and men should there be any more withdrawals over the next 2 weeks?

toddlj
11-13-2011, 04:01 AM
this is all so confusing to me, but I am still trying to understand it... to help me out, could somebreak down who is next in line for the pairs, dance, ladies and men should there be any more withdrawals over the next 2 weeks?

Since TEB is only a week away, we won't see any replacements there even if there is a drop out; as we've seen so far, late dropouts are not replaced.

As for COR, we are now within the window there (14 days before) in which the events are no longer required to replace anyone who drops out. I don't think we will see any more substitutions there either, at this point.

Jayar
11-13-2011, 10:07 AM
I think Chock and Bates got SC because Madison is part of a split team. For TEB, I think they got it because Evan is part of a split team. Samuelson and Gilles got one for Emily, Hubbell and Donohue got a host spot... and so on...

kwanfan1818
11-13-2011, 10:23 AM
I had never thought of that -- that each one of Chock and Bates earned a split couple berth. Thank you, Jayar!

tkaug
11-17-2011, 02:08 AM
Since the French Fed doesn't have to replace her, they probably won't. :(

I think that's because they want French ladies to have more chance to get points by not replacing Hecken. Now only 9 ladies to compete and that means at least 2 French ladies will get some points.



If Hecken is to be replaced, we would likely see one of Biryukova, Joshi Helgesson, Vannut, Kexin Zhang, or Min Jung Kwak get the spot. Hmmm.

I really wish they would have Joshi in TEB.
There's already her coach with Viktoria, so ISU would only have to pay her.
I'm feeling so bad for her being placed 10th. Her free skating performance wasn't bad at all!

Ziggy
11-17-2011, 10:31 AM
Joshi cheated pretty much all her jumps in her last GP FS.

But that doesn't matter. Joshi should have been invited. I know it wasn't 14 days but as tkaug said, her coach and sister were already coming so it would be cheaper than the usual replacements. :(

servin
11-17-2011, 11:20 AM
And Joshi was ready. She is now on here way to compete in Merano.

nlyoung
11-17-2011, 04:14 PM
I would guess it had less to do with wanting their own skaters to gain more ranking points, and more to do with saving $. Given the status of most federations' finances, I'm sure the French weren't too sad not to have to pay for a 10th skater even if she would have been cheaper than normal... :rolleyes: