PDA

View Full Version : 2011 Japan Open



Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 [24] 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47

aftershocks
10-02-2011, 10:02 PM
...
You mean this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXtHYSAmLMg)? Nice performance, smooth connections in and out of the elements, maybe even some "magic," but I don't see anything noteworthy or groundbreaking in terms of transitions. What are you referring to?

If I had to single out one skater as having "invented" modern (IJS-era) transitions, I'd give that honor to Jeff Buttle. But I wouldn't -- it's a process that all skaters and choreographers, elite and not elite, contribute to.

Carnival = show, not competition.

Yep "this" -- an iconic performance that has been studied and copied on a number of levels, but Weir is the sport’s favorite whipping boy, so pooh-poohing and largely dismissing any possible contribution by him and downplaying his inspirational impact is par for the course. Johnny’s style of movement, flow over the ice (beautiful ice coverage), exquisite jump landings, and musical interpretation are so effortless in his 2004 TEB Rondo Capriccioso. Perhaps you don’t see any significant so-called “transitions” (a term I am not really enamored of anyway) or innovations because the twists and turns, difficult steps into jumps, speedy movements on one foot, graceful arms, not to mention opening concept, gorgeous posture, and costume style/ theme have been copied so often since this performance. If you need help, watch closely from about 1:15 to 2:59, or better yet, simply enjoy the entire performance. There are not necessarily innovations in terms of moves that never existed before, but in the whole of how the program was put together and how it was performed, RC, as well as other Johnny performances (including, The Swan, Otonal, and My Way) did change how people viewed men’s figure skating and Johnny’s presence did contribute to pushing the sport to a new level. For me, there’s no “maybe” about magic.

With my phrasing “invented” I may be exaggerating on the opposite end of those who snicker or bristle whenever Weir’s name is mentioned. Kudos to Buttle for his exquisite edges and his sublime execution of great choreography. Thanks to Johnny’s eye-opening performances, I think what Buttle and indeed Lambiel had to offer the sport began to be recognized and rewarded more, as the sport moved a bit beyond the macho jump-focused influence of Elvis and Plushy, and began to realize once again in a fresh and different way (due to a variety of changes and influences) the impact and possibility of men exhibiting aesthetic beauty along with athleticism and well-rounded programs. Alas, Matt Savoie was never fully appreciated by the judges.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFAsNpBJbk0

It would have been quite interesting to see Johnny perform a Tom Dickson choreographed program.

Uh oh, re the CoP speak gkelly and Zemgirl. Ya got me there, as I’m so not into analyzing the protocols. I trust my eyes and my years of watching figure skating. I’ve learned a lot from you esteemed and knowledgeable CoP-centric fans, but still, I trust my eyes and sensibilities more than I do the still evolving CoP judging system and ever-present figure skating politics. I’m so not an expert, and definitely not a judge, just a fan with strong opinions. Kudos to all the “fair-minded, knowledgeable” fans. :)

Carnival = "amusement show, usually including rides; a period of merrymaking; riotous excess," etc. Be it competition, exhibition, or combination of both, this may prove to be one rockin’ Carnivalesque season. Enjoy.

Roxanne
10-02-2011, 10:02 PM
Artur Gachinski http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqvI_HeKEQ
Alissa Czisny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baXsIoWx9EM
Patrick Chan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfwXaHZRxIc
Joannie Rochette http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8JBWp7s9pM
Alena Leonova http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k4bTHdkyHE

Miruna
10-02-2011, 10:10 PM
Hi Miruna! Sorry to be a pain but I don't understand anything, I can see links with skater names on them but I've no idea what to do after clicking on them! This is probably just me being dense...can you tell me/us, pretty please! :)

When I click on the name a new window opens and a little below I have the option "click here to download"

oleada
10-02-2011, 10:12 PM
Thanks for the links!

I'm disappointed by Alissa's program :( It's very pretty skating as usual but it was pretty empty and there was nothing special about it. It was pretty bland. Maybe it will grow on me....

Jeschke
10-02-2011, 10:15 PM
Artur Gachinski http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqvI_HeKEQ
Alissa Czisny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baXsIoWx9EM
Patrick Chan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfwXaHZRxIc
Joannie Rochette http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8JBWp7s9pM
Alena Leonova http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k4bTHdkyHE

has anyone a link to the program of miki ando? im so excited, despite the bad jumps...

Miruna
10-02-2011, 10:22 PM
Florent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUyXhIqY64o

I don't have Miki, Jeff and Kozuka(the link from where I downloaded them stoped working for me, I am sorry)

I found on this user's channel Takahiko: http://www.youtube.com/user/Sashafanscontest#p/a/u/1/dZ_6yAzX8ns

Primorskaya
10-02-2011, 10:23 PM
Thanks a million Roxanne and Miruna! I could not have gone to sleep without watching these!

Miruna
10-02-2011, 10:28 PM
Thanks a million Roxanne and Miruna! I could not have gone to sleep without watching these!

Your welcome :)

oleada
10-02-2011, 10:31 PM
I thought it was worth noticing that Team Europe had the highest totals in the ladies. When did they stop sucking? :saint:

(yes, I know it's less Europe and more just Russia, but still).

Miruna
10-02-2011, 10:39 PM
Jeff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKOewluj7AY

Rafter
10-02-2011, 10:40 PM
Kween does "own" Aranjuez in her iconic skates in 2003.

Huh? I would never even think to link the music of Aranjuez to Kwan. To me, so many skaters have used it that no one really owns this music. One of the best skating programs I've seen to it was on SOI many years ago and it was a quartet of I believe Orser, Yamaguichi and G&G.

ostile17
10-02-2011, 10:40 PM
Takahiko Kozuka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ_6yAzX8ns

Vash01
10-02-2011, 10:46 PM
Liza's LP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK3W_tzkvCs

She is adorable! She is very young and it shows in her artistry, but wow! What a talent! If she can hold on to her jumps, she could be a medal contender in Sochi.

aftershocks
10-02-2011, 10:50 PM
Thanks for the links!

Gachinski looks good and shows improvement in line and aesthetic qualities. I like his program and costume, and I'll enjoy seeing how he continues to develop.

Love Alissa's program, and I look forward to seeing her progress with it further this season.

Nice costume for Chan, and he's looking confident as the defending World champion. I do see definite growth for him even from this season to last. He obviously didn't fully have his feet under him throughout the entire program. As he did last year, he'll probably correct his mistakes for the big competitions. Impeccable in many ways for this early in the season. Still, to be expected that there will be comments made re the falls and high scores. I don't question him winning with the falls in this instance, necessarily, but it's clear that with his hard work, improvements and unique skill set, Chan can do very little wrong in the judges' eyes and that will continue to give him an advantage over the rest of the field. I haven't seen all the skaters, but its not unexpected for the judges to reward the defending World champion, especially when it's the new and improved Patrick Chan (since he was already quite good pre 2010-2011 season, and arguably performed well enough to win 1999 Worlds -- there it was his smack-down with Joubert that got him in trouble, and he learned from that experience).

DickButtonFan
10-02-2011, 10:55 PM
Thanks for the videos everyone.

Patrick's program is beautiful, this version of the music really really suits him well. Off to watch the rest of the videos.

ETA: WOW Alissa!! Very nice, I like last years sp dress for the lp, wonder if she'll keep it that way? This music is so good for her too.