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operagirl
06-14-2011, 09:53 PM
In person the gold dress is quite obviously older than the cream. It was shown under glass. The dress looked too fragile to display upright as the majority of costumes were.

victoriaheidi
06-15-2011, 12:30 AM
In person the gold dress is quite obviously older than the cream. It was shown under glass. The dress looked too fragile to display upright as the majority of costumes were.

Since I'm in LA anyway and this seems like a really cool collection, I'm going to go check it out. I'll post an update when I do.

FigureSpins
06-15-2011, 01:54 AM
I wish I could go - I've always wanted to go to the Paley Center. Their annual "Paleyfest" is supposed to be awesome.

I wonder if there are notes or docents to clarify the dresses/skates origin and how Ms. Reynolds acquired them? It could be a good story.

Iceman
06-15-2011, 11:06 AM
Sonja's show dresses were often "short". Her competitive ones weren't.

http://www.hickoksports.com/images/henie_sonja.jpg


Sonja in short shorts with Dick Button

http://i.factmonster.com/images/shenie_dbutton_skating.jpg

FigureSpins
06-15-2011, 03:19 PM
Sonja's show dresses were often "short". Her competitive ones weren't.

Yeah, I said that, too.
However, her MOVIE dresses weren't as short as her show dresses, either. Those stills and videos are easier to find.
The cream colored dress in question doesn't have panties, so it appears to be really, really short, even for Henie.
However, when you see it on Heiss, it's not *that* short. The skirt edges are frayed, so it may have been trimmed.

I really want to see a photo of the cream-colored dress on Henie. I'm amazed that they could both wear the same size dress. Heiss looks much taller.


UPDATE: I found the gold dress with the red stars on Henie:

http://www.squidoo.com/sonja-henie
http://i3.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens16634521module141807801photo_1292789783s onja-henie-feather.jpg

It had a headdress too. Did the Paley center display show the headpieces, operagirl?

Iceman
06-15-2011, 09:50 PM
Figure Spins, the video on one of your links----her skating speed and the speed of her spins makes today's skaters look like they are skating on molasses!!! lol

FigureSpins
06-15-2011, 11:34 PM
Sonja Henie's skating or Carol Heiss'?

I think Heiss could have held her own today, but Henie might have been outskated by some of today's competitors. (Maybe even out-acted!)

operagirl
06-16-2011, 05:23 AM
UPDATE: I found the gold dress with the red stars on Henie:

http://www.squidoo.com/sonja-henie
http://i3.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens16634521module141807801photo_1292789783s onja-henie-feather.jpg

It had a headdress too. Did the Paley center display show the headpieces, operagirl?

There were no headpieces. Love that you found the picture! The people at the auction don't have it!!!

FigureSpins
06-16-2011, 09:49 AM
Too bad about the missing headpieces. The bidder would have been much higher if the auction included the full costume.

That "squidoo" site was fascinating - lots of great photos. I just stumbled across it in an internet search.

I also found that Sonja's dresses go up for auction regularly, and for big bucks: over $1k for dress, headpiece, and skates.
http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/6/lot/1420/

http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/6/lot/1421/
(This one looks a bit bogus: cowboy boots? Really?)

http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/6/lot/1422/

http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/6/lot/1423/

Not an costume photo but I like the image on this page:
http://www.factmonster.com/spot/winter-olympics-henie.html
Sonja skating hand-in-hand with Dick Button - cute!

I think I'd rather have her Packard:


1934 Packard 1104 Rumble Seat Coupe Roadster – Older quality restoration, still in remarkably good show condition. Car runs extremely well. Originally owned by Olympic Gold Medal figure skater and Hollywood actress Sonja Henie. Seen in Woody Allen's 1999 Academy Award nominated movie "Sweet and Lowdown"
http://www.rmauctions.com/PressRelease.cfm?PressID=487

It sold for over $138,000 back in 2005.

manleywoman
06-16-2011, 04:43 PM
I also found that Sonja's dresses go up for auction regularly, and for big bucks: over $1k for dress, headpiece, and skates.
http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/6/lot/1420/

I don't find $1000 "big buck" when you're getting three things out of it. Sonia's stuff isn't worth much in the grand scheme of Hollywood.

skatesindreams
06-16-2011, 05:05 PM
It would cost much more to replicate them, today.

FigureSpins
06-16-2011, 06:15 PM
It would cost much more to replicate them, today.
Especially the furred and feathered creations, right?


I don't find $1000 "big buck" when you're getting three things out of it. Sonia's stuff isn't worth much in the grand scheme of Hollywood.
Yes, but the current auction has an opening bid of $800 for two dresses (without headpiece) and a pair of CCM skates. By comparison, the completed auctions for a single dress, headpiece and skates are more pricey. In comparison to buying Judy Garland's pinafore from "The Wizard of Oz," there's no comparison. In a very small niche, $800 for the current auction is a bargain. I really am curious to see what the winning bid will be, although I still question the cream-colored dress' authenticity.

I don't think Sonja's contributions to Hollywood were insignificant. There were several copycats and her business acumen inspired other ventures, such as Esther Williams' swimming shows and movies. Esther gives Sonja a lot of credit (and a bit of cheek) in her autobiography.

More importantly, Sonja brought figure skating to the masses. She didn't expect to be nominated for acting awards, but she reached her goal of becoming a Star! She had a great impact on many people. Her biography makes it seem like they didn't like her in Hollywood, though, so you're right about that.

wouldacoulda
06-17-2011, 02:37 AM
Trying to keep myself from bidding on a Henie dress...got to pay the mortgage...must have dress...got to pay the mortgage...

FigureSpins
06-17-2011, 02:53 AM
Be strong - pay the mortgage!

Get a picture of the dress and order a replica of the dress from the Chinese eBay sellers for $35.
(They'd probably throw in a headpiece and boot covers, too, for a little extra.)

Or get a print of Sonja in the complete getup and have it framed for your wall. Voila! No cold storage fees.

Karina1974
06-17-2011, 03:18 AM
The studio costume departments were constantly recycling wardrobe.


A lot of the numbers Sonja skated in her films were the same ones she was skating in her ice show, so I doubt that the studio owned the costumes she wore in the films.