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olympic
06-11-2011, 04:26 PM
This is actually getting ugly:

He made some comments during a stand-up act in front of a crowd of 2,000 ppl in Nashville:

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/06/10/Tracy_Morgan_Called_On_To_Explain_Gay_Tirade_Durin g_Nashville_Show/

snip:


Audience member Kevin Rogers took to his Facebook page to describe the scene. Rogers said Morgan joked that “women are a gift from God and that ‘Born this Way’ is bullshit. Gay is a choice.” Morgan is said to have called gay people “mistakes.” Morgan said lesbians just hate men and don’t have real attraction to women, according to Rogers’s account.

On bullying in schools, Morgan is said to have advised gays to “quit being pussies” and stop whining. Then, Rogers said, Morgan talked about killing his son.

“He said if his son ... was gay he better come home and talk to him like a man and not [he mimicked a gay, high pitched voice] or he would pull out a knife and stab that little N (one word I refuse to use) to death,” Rogers wrote on Facebook.


He eventually apologized, but ....

Tina Fey said she was disturbed by his rant:

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/06/10/Tracy_Morgan_s_Apology_Met_With_Disappointment/

snip:


"The violent imagery of Tracy's rant was disturbing to me at a time when homophobic hate crimes continue to be a life-threatening issue for the GLBT Community," Fey says.

"It also doesn't line up with the Tracy Morgan I know, who is not a hateful man and is generally much too sleepy and self-centered to ever hurt another person.

Fey, who is the mother of one child and is pregnant with her second, adds, "I hope for his sake that Tracy's apology will be accepted as sincere by his gay and lesbian co-workers at 30 Rock, without whom Tracy would not have lines to say, clothes to wear, sets to stand on, scene partners to act with, or a printed-out paycheck from accounting to put in his pocket."

Yet, Chris Rock is defending Tracy Morgan's Right to say 'foul and inappropriate sh-t'


Comedian-actor Chris Rock has defended the controversial comments made by fellow comic actor Tracy Morgan via Twitter, saying "I don't know about you, but I don't want to live in world where Tracy Morgan cant say foul inappropriate shit."

Wanda Sykes says it isn't free speech:

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/06/10/Wanda_Sykes_Responds_to_Tracy_Morgan_on_Twitter/

snip:


Sykes compared Morgan’s statements – which included his insistence that he would kill his own son if he were an effeminate gay man – to speech that the Supreme Court has said can be rightfully barred.

“I do believe in free speech, but for a youth in TN or any other numerous place, Tracy just yelled, ‘Fire,’ in a crowded theater,” Sykes wrote.

What do you think????

danceronice
06-11-2011, 04:33 PM
Well, philosophically, Chris Rock is of course right. It's a free country. The 'fire in a crowded theater' analogy doesn't work because you simply cannot hold someone responsible for another person's mental/emotional state.

However, more to the point: who the fcuk is Tracy Morgan?

olympic
06-11-2011, 04:44 PM
Well, philosophically, Chris Rock is of course right. It's a free country. The 'fire in a crowded theater' analogy doesn't work because you simply cannot hold someone responsible for another person's mental/emotional state.

However, more to the point: who the fcuk is Tracy Morgan?

As long as Chris Rock has the same philosophy that anyone can say 'rude and inappropriate sh-t' about anyone, including racial minorities, and still shrug his shoulders, then he would at least be consistent but I find it hateful speech without any artistic merit. Not clever, not provocative. Just dumb

TalentedButHumble
06-11-2011, 04:47 PM
I was kind of getting over Tina Fey (overexposure), but I like her comments re: this. Of course, I don't know why she (or Lorne Michaels) ever made that untalented idiot famous to begin with ...

heckles
06-11-2011, 04:47 PM
Tracy is a gay name for a man.

Cyn
06-11-2011, 04:53 PM
Interesting. I've never watched him on Saturday Night Live, but the few times I've seen him on TV, I always thought *he* was gay.

It had nothing to do with his name, however - I know too many "Tracys" and even "Stacys" that are guys. Had it been "Lacey," however, he'd have been a dead duck.

Allen
06-11-2011, 05:05 PM
It concerns me that Chris Rock doesn't see the difference between saying really inappropriate things in a comedy routine and saying that you would stab your son to death if he was effeminate. And while freedom of speech does protect such things, it doesn't make it okay to say something like that. So, he can say it all he wants, but he should also be prepared to suffer any consequences related to his statements.

I know a couple of people who were at the show and they left after the comment. Neither of those people are gay, but they just didn't want to be associated with such a statement.

Kudos to Tina Fey though.

WindSpirit
06-11-2011, 06:01 PM
Interesting. I've never watched him on Saturday Night Live, but the few times I've seen him on TV, I always thought *he* was gay. Same here. I've been just waiting for him to come out. :P


Openly gay actor George Takei also took to Twitter to express outrage: 'In stand-up rant, Tracy Morgan threatened to kill his son if he were gay,' he tweeted, adding, 'I suspect his dad is next for naming him 'Tracy.' :rofl:

IceAlisa
06-11-2011, 06:34 PM
Who is Tracy Morgan?

olympic
06-11-2011, 06:35 PM
Who is Tracy Morgan?

Actor on Tina Fey's show, 30 Rock

IceAlisa
06-11-2011, 06:38 PM
Actor on Tina Fey's show, 30 Rock

What a nice guy. :rolleyes:

BigB08822
06-11-2011, 06:48 PM
I have always been the type of person to stand up for comedians when they get in trouble. It is their job to say offensive but funny things. It is almost impossible for a comedian to do a good stand up routine without saying something that someone can find offensive. You have to know it is all a joke. HOWEVER, this case is so very different. What he said was DISGUSTING. It went way too far and it went from being a joke to being, exactly as the OP said, a tirade. I have never ever liked Tracy Morgan and have never thought he was the least bit funny. This little act doesn't help and I will never like him.

Cheylana
06-11-2011, 06:52 PM
I don't watch 30 Rock, but TM used to be on Saturday Night Live. I never thought he was funny or memorable. I think people who aren't all that talented resort to saying offensive stuff in hopes of seeming "edgy" and getting attention. It's also frustrating to see him playing into all the usual black stereotypes. :(

Interesting. I've never watched him on Saturday Night Live, but the few times I've seen him on TV, I always thought *he* was gay.
TM doth protest much?

PeterG
06-11-2011, 08:28 PM
What if you replaced "gay" with "African-American" or "Jewish"?

Some of Tracy Morgan's act:


Women are a gift from God and that ‘Born this Way’ is bullshit. Gay is a choice. Gay people are mistakes. Lesbians just hate men and don’t have real attraction to women. Gays should quit being pussies and stop whining.

If my son ... was gay he better come home and talk like a man and not [mimicking a gay, high pitched voice] or I would pull out a knife and stab that little n***** to death.

And if we switch it up:


White people are a gift from God and that ‘Black Is Beautiful’ is bullshit. African-Americans choose to be like that. Black people are mistakes. Black people hate whites... Black people should quit being pussies and stop whining.

If my son ... wanted anything to do with Blacks he better come home and talk to me like a human and not [mimicking a ghetto, hip-hop hustler voice] or I would pull out a knife and stab that little n***** to death.

So Chris Rock, would you support Michael Richards delivering this "comedy" make-over? Stand beside Mr. Richards, put your arm around him and tell the world you stand beside him 100%?


However, more to the point: who the fcuk is Tracy Morgan?

:confused: Seriously?

Tracy Morgan is an Emmy-nominated actor on the critically acclaimed "30 Rock" which just finished its sixth season. Morgan was a cast member of Saturday Night Live for seven years and starred in at least three other television shows. He has starred in twenty-two major motion pictures including Cop Out, The Other Guys, Death At A Funeral, Rio and The Longest Yard. He is an author (http://www.amazon.com/Am-New-Black-Tracy-Morgan/dp/0385527772/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1307820408&sr=1-1) and has also hosted awards shows as well as weekly television programs.

(Wikipedia is your friend.)

Wiery
06-11-2011, 09:03 PM
Thank you Tina Fey...I wish I could live a day with your brain...