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judiz
05-26-2011, 12:19 PM
Now that the trial has started, what does everyone think of the ridiculous claim by the defense that Caylee drowned accidentally and in a panic Casey hid the body with the help of her father?

numbers123
05-26-2011, 12:36 PM
I watched a few minutes of the opening statements.

My summary: Casey is claiming sexual abuse, perp her father. That her father was watching or somewhere near the swimming pool when Caley (that's the baby's name right?) drowned. Her dad hid the body until sometime between the first reports/searching and just a day or so before the discovery of the body. That he had an person someone (who he paid) to help dispose of the body just hours before the discovery.

Might not be the whole gist of what the defense attorney was presenting, I was trying to get my grandson down for a nap.

I don't know what to believe or if there is enough evidence to place reasonable doubt in the minds of the jurors. I applaud the jurors as this will be a difficult case and no matter what the verdict is, they will be questioned forever on the details.

kittyjake5
05-26-2011, 12:43 PM
Casey's defense sounds pretty weak. Good luck to her team trying to convince a jury of that scenario. The prosecution has a strong case and quite a bit of evidence against her.
I am wondering if she was offered a plea deal and the death penalty taken off the table for life in prison would she take it or reject it. I also believe if she is convicted of the charges against her the jurors will show no mercy and vote against her in the death penalty phase of the case.

Garden Kitty
05-26-2011, 05:49 PM
I hadn't followed the story that much, but I saw a Discovery ID show last month that covered everything. At the time, her parents annoyed me for the manner in which they were defending her - seemed like the poor victim was forgotten. I wonder if her Dad is still defending her so strongly now.

Marge_Simpson
05-26-2011, 06:22 PM
I think it's a ploy to create reasonable doubt with at least one juror.
The Anthonys met with Casey's defense team several weeks ago and I am convinced that they cooked this up between them to try and spare Casey the death penalty. I believe thay all agreed to throw George under the bus. This is a man with a serious temper and he didn't react when Jose Baez made his opening statements. And he didn't go ballistic while on the stand Tuesday, which we would have expected from him, given his past behavior during depositions.
Casey accuses George of sexual abuse, George denies it. There is no way to prove it, but it may garner sympathy for Casey.
The whole "Caylee drowned and George helped cover it up" theory that Jose Baez put out there makes no sense. George was former law enforcement and knew Casey would not have been arrested if the death really was a tragic accident. And how to explain the duct tape found on Caylee's skull? And the Winnie-the-Pooh blanket found with her remains?
As a former law officer, George would have known better than to risk having these easily traced items with Caylee's body. (The duct tape was an unusual brand which was proven to come from the Anthony home)
I suspect Baez will be disbarred when this trial is over!

genevieve
05-26-2011, 07:12 PM
links please?

Marge_Simpson
05-26-2011, 07:35 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=166

danceronice
05-26-2011, 07:41 PM
I think it's a ploy to create reasonable doubt with a least one juror.
The Anthonys met with Casey's defense team several weeks ago and I am convinced that they cooked this up between them to try and spare Casey the death penalty. I believe thay all agreed to throw George under the bus. This is a man with a serious temper and he didn't react when Jose Baez made his opening statements. And he didn't go ballistic while on the stand Tuesday, which we would have expected from him, given his past behavior during depositions.
Casey accuses George of sexual abuse, George denies it. There is no way to prove it, but it may garner sympathy for Casey.
The whole "Caylee drowned and George helped cover it up" theory that Jose Baez put out there makes no sense. George was former law enforcement and knew Casey would not have been arrested if the death really was a tragic accident. And how to explain the duct tape found on Caylee's skull? And the Winnie-the-Pooh blanket found with her remains?
As a former law officer, George would have known better than to risk having these easily traced items with Caylee's body. (The duct tape was an unusual brand which was proven to come from the Anthony home)
I suspect Baez will be disbarred when this trial is over!

I don't know about disbarred (defense attorneys have gotten away with stupider 'reasonable doubt' theories before; heck they've gotten ACQUITALS with them before I AM LOOKING AT YOU, MR. COCHRAN ET AL) but I think you have the gist of it--they're basically playing for a hung jury or at least no death penalty in the worst-case scenario. The only possible reason for hiding the body in a GENUINE accident would be if there was something else going on that a post-mort would turn up (ie if someone were sexually abusing Caylee--to prove an accident, there would be an autopsy). Which would argue strongly it wasn't an accident to begin with.

Possibly, as far as duct tape/blanket goes, assuming the defense attorney isn't just pulling this all out of a certain orifice, that MIGHT be explicable with the "kidnapped by the sitter" theory (ie the sitter/kidnapper took the items along with the child) but since that's out the window with the new story how they'll explain that is beyond me.

I would love if the judge quoted the movie Billy Madison at the defense, though: "what you've just said... Is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

Marge_Simpson
05-26-2011, 08:02 PM
Judge Perry sent the jury out of the courtroom this morning to chastise Baez. Baez had repeatedly badgered George Anthony to comment on a photo which had not been entered as evidence. How dumb can you get?

Cheylana
05-26-2011, 08:13 PM
Stupid defense theories, in themselves, generally won't get a lawyer disbarred. But if Baez knows (or has strong reason to believe) that the Anthonys are lying, then he can't put them on the witness stand; otherwise he would be perpetrating a fraud on the court, which is a very serious ethical violation (at least here in New York; gotta think Florida is the same). But most defense attorneys are pretty well versed on how to toe the ethical line, so Baez probably was careful not to actively participate in the Anthonys' concoction of this accidental drowning story.

I feel so bad for little Caylee. She deserved so much better :(

skatemommy
05-26-2011, 08:19 PM
Wasn't the child suffocated? I thought they found evidence in her car.

Marge_Simpson
05-27-2011, 12:33 AM
They couldn't determine the actual cause of death, by the time her body was found, there was nothing left but bones.
High levels of chloroform were detected in the trunk of Casey's car, and the forensic search of her computer showed she had googled "chloroform", "neck breaking" and "shovel" several weeks prior to Caylee going missing.
When the body was found, 2 pieces of duct tape were attached to her skull. The pathologist who did the autopsy determined that they had been placed over her mouth and nose. There was also a third piece, it's been speculated but not proven that it was used to bind her hands.
Most likely, she WAS suffocated, but only Casey knows for sure.
:(

judiz
05-27-2011, 01:33 AM
Unfortunately children drown every year in backyard swimming pools, why would Casey or her dad hide it if that is what happened? Personally I doubt Caylee drowned. I think her mom killed her and had no remorse whatsoever.

Latte
05-27-2011, 01:50 AM
I can't decide who is more evil, Baez or Casey.
It's a toss up.
I really doubt that George agreed to be accused of sexual abuse on Casey. Or that stupid story about him being there when Caylee drowned.
I think crazy Casey thought that up on her own. Or her lawyer thought it up and knows it is a big lie. I think he will get worse before it is over and it is my strong wish that he is disbarred.
I do hope they don't give her the death penalty though. I don't believe in it. I will be satisfied with her rotting in prison the rest of her life.

judiz
05-27-2011, 01:53 AM
I do hope they don't give her the death penalty though. I don't believe in it. I will be satisfied with her rotting in prison the rest of her life.


I think she should spend the rest of her life in prison surrounded by photos of Caylee so she can be reminded daily of what she lost and took from the world.