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Tinami Amori
07-06-2011, 10:32 PM
Here's an interesting article on Jose Baez' background. Born in my own Puerrrrto RRRRRRiccco! "It's not where you start - it's where you finish."

Jose Baez is “Latino”?
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/phpeIe4kYPM(4).jpg

…..he is as “Latino” as Yehud Barak…… :D
http://rt.com/files/politics/israel-defense-minister-moscow/ehud-barak285.n.jpg

Jose Baez is a descendent of Portuguese Jews…… :lol:…. He was a bad student, a drop-out and a trouble maker, but he was taking lessons from Geraldo Rivera: what gets you further in USA today, your Latino parent or your Jewish parent?........ :rofl:

BaileyCatts
07-06-2011, 10:49 PM
I just want to say one thing. The public will not determine whether or not Casey Anthony gets rich. I have seen this said in here and on other sites such as FB. Casey Anthony will get a HEFTY signing bonus and be paid up front for any books, interviews, movies, etc. It really won't matter one bit if the public tunes in or buys anything with her name attached. She may not get as much money on the back end of the deal but she will already have gotten the big check up front. I still wont support her but don't fool yourself into thinking she wont get a dime if we all ignore her, she will. Besides, the majority of people will show interest and we all know it.

I totally agree with you. She'll get all the upfront money and it won't matter if not one single book is sold, not one single person pays to see a movie (although I'm sure all the porn sites she'll be posing for/bars she'll be in hot body contests will make loads of money -- [sarcasam off]). She will get her $$$$ payday. She's probably already working on the six-figures one of the major networks will pay for the latest "get". I have to roll my eyes as the repituble news agency's say "we never pay for interviews", yet will pay $500,000+ for "licensing fees" to show a few pictures. Yeah right, you didn't "pay" for that interview at all.

Although I also look at it this way. With all the losers and hangers-on that will become her new "friends" that will be around her just for the noteriaty and celebrity of her (and unfortunately, she's now a trainwreck celebrity), she'll burn thru that money in about 8-10 years.

judiz
07-06-2011, 11:12 PM
Actually she won't get a lot of money, Yim Miller of Texas Equusearch is looking to sue Casey for $112,000.00 which is the amount they spent looking for Caylee, that money could had been spent searching for children who were really missing. The real Zadida Fernandez Gonzalez has a civil case against Casey for damages done to her reputation when the police thought she was Zanny the nanny. And I heard the City of Orlando may bill Casey for the money used when its police force was out searching for a child whose mom knew was no longer alive, not to mention all the added security around the Anthony home and the site on Surburban Drive where Caylee's remains were found.

Kruss
07-06-2011, 11:15 PM
And the reports are already rolling in that some jurors are working out $$$ deals for their story to the media. :mad:

milanessa
07-06-2011, 11:26 PM
A state legislator is proposing a bill to make it a felony to not report a missing child in a "timely" manner. I think he's calling it Caylee's Law.

Anita18
07-06-2011, 11:30 PM
A juror speaks, says they were all sick to their stomachs after voting for a not guilty verdict.


"I did not say she was innocent," said Ford, who had previously only been identified as juror number 3. "I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be."

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"Everyone wonders why we didn't speak to the media right away," Ford said. "It was because we were sick to our stomach to get that verdict. We were crying and not just the women. It was emotional and we weren't ready. We wanted to do it with integrity and not contribute to the sensationalism of the trial."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey_anthony_trial/casey-anthony-juror-sick-stomach-guilty-verdict/story?id=14005609

BigB08822
07-06-2011, 11:31 PM
Perez Hilton just posted this in response to one of the jurors giving a quote:


Not such luck with that. The most shocking thing about this trial is that Casey Anthony walked away from it - and that's partly your doing. Still, you are the one who needs to live with conscience and your decision. If you think you made the right call, then we don't know what to say to you … other than watch yourself. We mean that sincerely. There are a lot of very angry people out there. We understand your need to clarify your stance, but it might've been safer for you to stay quiet.

I don't understand all the horrible things being said about the jurors. They did their job and they made a very hard decision with the evidence they had. I don't think she was innocent and I doubt most of them, or any of them, thought she was. However, if the evidence simply wasn't there then what could they do? It seems to have all come down to the fact that they couldn't prove Caylee was even murdered and that is a pretty big problem in a MURDER trial.

zippy
07-06-2011, 11:36 PM
I still don't see a murder here. Horrible mother? Absolutely. Despicable human being? 100%. But I sill don't see where she murdered her own daughter. For sure not enough for a 1st degree conviction especially one that can put a needle in someone's arm. It's really easy to sit on our sofas and watch it on TV but I feel for those jurors who had to make that determination, and I'm sure they took it seriously.

You missed my point; I was trying to point out that there's no conceivable scenario given this body of circumstantial and direct evidence where a true accident occurred (one that involved no child abuse or gross neglect) that's reasonable, which is why I would go for manslaughter/child abuse if not murder. And I'm against the death penalty in any case.

Obviously the idea of an innocent person going to prison or especially getting the death sentence is terrible, but it may not always be so morally right to go with 'not guilty' unless the prosecution removes every shred of doubt. What if you allow a dangerous serial killer back to society because the remains were skeletonized, leaving no cause of death and they kill again? An extreme case, but this is why it's important for jurors to be able to make inferences and use their common sense based on the evidence, not just acquit unless there's absolute proof.


So... your in my house and fell down my stairs and when I ran to see what happened you had already broken you neck and was dead. I didn't tell anyone for 31 days and acted like nothing happened including getting a tattoo. I taped your mouth shut and use chemicals to make it appear to be kidnapping and let you rot in a trash bag in my trunk for a few days before I dumped your body in a swamp. Then I told a ton of lies to cover more lies...

Psycho? Perhaps....1st degree murderer? Are you sure?

Um, yeah, if I did that I wouldn't be surprised to find myself in the clink for good. Again, who covers up an accident to make it look like a murder? You can make up a crazy tale about just about any murder. Does that mean nobody should ever be convicted? What if I happened upon some murder scene, and I ran around shedding my DNA all over the place and left my handprint in the victim's blood on the wall? Because I was um, trying to save them. Oh, and the real murderer was wearing a surgical gown, gloves and a cap at the time of the murder, so their DNA is absent. Could happen, right?



Btw, what did those of you who didn't think there was enough evidence to convict Casey on any of the charges think about Scott Peterson's case

I was wondering what people think about Scott Peterson too - there seemed to be much less evidence against him, all circumstantial, the only forensic evidence a single hair with no nuclear DNA, no cause of death, and he got the death penalty.

For those who say they would need more proof, what amount of proof would you need to convict? What DNA evidence, where?

One bright light in this mess is that it's been so entertaining watching Nancy Grace's head explode!

Jenna
07-06-2011, 11:56 PM
Perez Hilton just posted this in response to one of the jurors giving a quote:



I don't understand all the horrible things being said about the jurors. They did their job and they made a very hard decision with the evidence they had. I don't think she was innocent and I doubt most of them, or any of them, thought she was. However, if the evidence simply wasn't there then what could they do? It seems to have all come down to the fact that they couldn't prove Caylee was even murdered and that is a pretty big problem in a MURDER trial.

All the people pointing fingers at the jurors are ignorant. They did their job and they acted on impartial and honest feelings. I don't get it. Perez is an asshole..and that message sounds borderline threatening to me.

soxxy
07-06-2011, 11:56 PM
NBC's Kerry Sanders tells viewers Casey wrote from her jail cell if released, she'd like to have another baby:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nbcs-kerry-sanders-casey-anthony-could-walk-free-tomorrow-with-plans-to-have-another-baby/

Casey has been served with a subpoena from Zenaida Gonzalez whom she said was "Zanny".

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/july/274778/Casey-Anthony-subpoenaed-in-Zenaida-Gonzalez-case

reckless
07-07-2011, 12:01 AM
You missed my point; I was trying to point out that there's no conceivable scenario given this body of circumstantial and direct evidence where a true accident occurred (one that involved no child abuse or gross neglect) that's reasonable, which is why I would go for manslaughter/child abuse if not murder. And I'm against the death penalty in any case.
Here's the problem with your suggestion. The prosecution spends weeks telling the jury it's murder. Casey researched chloroform. She drugged Caylee and duct-taped her mouth. When did she die exactly? We don't know, but whenever it was, it was during Casey's deliberate, premeditated murder. Then, happy that she had gotten rid of her daughter, she went out and partied.

That sounds great if you have enough evidence to back it up. But when you don't, you can't then turn around with any degree of credibility and say, "Oh wait . . . maybe when she researched chloroform, it was after Caylee was dead. And maybe the duct-tape was done to make it look like Caylee was kidnapped and put over her mouth after she died.

Or maybe Caylee was drugged so Casey could go out and she died accidentally.

If you heard three different "possibilities" like that, could you really say that you have no reasonable doubt about any single one of them? Each crime has different elements. Manslaughter involves committing an unintentional, wrongful act that leads to death. But if you've been told the acts were intentional, the crime doesn't fit manslaughter. Just because something is a "lesser" offense does not mean that the same evidence proves both acts. So it's not as if you can say "I think Caylee was deliberately murdered, but can't believe that beyond a reasonable doubt so I'll find her guilty of manslaughter."

That's the problem here. The prosecutor's murder theory conflicted with a posible manslaughter charge, leaving the jury with insufficient grounds to find murder and doubt as to manslaughter.

icecat
07-07-2011, 12:34 AM
This is a very interesting slant....seems to explain a lot, if accurate.

http://www.patriotledger.com/mobile/x898079778/WENDY-J-MURPHY-Casey-Anthony-trial-an-exercise-in-absurdity

Cyn
07-07-2011, 01:48 AM
Well, this didn't take long…..

Casey Anthony Receives Porn Offer From Vivid Entertainment (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/06/casey-anthony-gets-porn-offer_n_891339.html)

:yikes: :scream:

cruisin
07-07-2011, 02:26 AM
Perez Hilton just posted this in response to one of the jurors giving a quote:



I don't understand all the horrible things being said about the jurors. They did their job and they made a very hard decision with the evidence they had. I don't think she was innocent and I doubt most of them, or any of them, thought she was. However, if the evidence simply wasn't there then what could they do? It seems to have all come down to the fact that they couldn't prove Caylee was even murdered and that is a pretty big problem in a MURDER trial.

Gee, I wonder if something happens to one of the jurors and they arrest Perez Hilton, because he threatened them, if he'll understand that circumstantial evidence, sometimes, is just not enough.

Lucy25
07-07-2011, 02:39 AM
Well, this didn't take long…..

Casey Anthony Receives Porn Offer From Vivid Entertainment (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/06/casey-anthony-gets-porn-offer_n_891339.html)

:yikes: :scream:

According to TMZ, they have taken their offer back. Apparently their offer received too much negative reaction.