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Sylvia
06-28-2011, 05:57 PM
I don't know the reason(s) why but, AFAIK, an official Senior B competition announcement was never published online.

COS Summer Skate is taking place as usual. The entry deadline is Wednesday, July 6th.

Sedge
06-28-2011, 08:39 PM
This is puzzling isn't it?

It was announced in ISU communication # 1676...

http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-130127-131435-nav-list,00.html

I wonder what happened.

Ziggy
06-28-2011, 09:16 PM
Summer Skate 2011 in Thornhill (Senior B for Senior Ladies & Men) is now listed as CANCELLED on the ISU calendar. :(

SC and USFS need to sort their act out.

Their skaters need minimum scores, ranking points and feedback from international judges and technical specialists.

And there's tons of skaters and teams from other countries training in NA who'd benefit too.

Sylvia
06-30-2011, 05:43 PM
Here's Skate Canada's press release about the cancellation of the Senior B portion of Thornhill: http://www.skatecanada.ca/AboutUs/NewsDetails/tabid/2157/sni[2797]/975/language/en-US/Default.aspx

After assessing our skaters' opportunities and the ISU Grand Prix assignments, it was determined that there were enough existing international competitions so the requirement to stage this event was diminished. Skate Canada will assess the need to hold a Senior international event in subsequent years, and will revisit the opportunity to hold an event of this type in the future.The COS Thornhill Summer Competition will continue as planned.

kwanfan1818
06-30-2011, 06:19 PM
Oh, that's a drag. Skate Canada must not have any singles they care enough to have qualify for GP without paying to send them to Germany, where there are a limited number of spots per country. Control freaks!

SamuraiK
06-30-2011, 06:28 PM
From the press release posted by Sylvia, bolded is mine..


After assessing our skaters' opportunities and the ISU Grand Prix assignments, it was determined that there were enough existing international competitions so the requirement to stage this event was diminished.

That basically sounds to me as :"Well, Chan, Reynolds, Rogozine and Phaneuf already have 2 GP assignments, and they are the ones who'll probably go to worlds so why bother about the rest getting minimun or international scores.

Lara
06-30-2011, 06:58 PM
SC :wall: :mad:

But given their history on the JGP it's no surprise. Stupid.

LilJen
06-30-2011, 07:10 PM
Well, that's lame. So anyone else who wants a minimum HAS to go overseas, including a large number of non-US skaters who happen to be training in the US or Canada?? Argh.

Stephanie
06-30-2011, 07:12 PM
To be fair, SC was probably going to lose money on the event, so if they don't need it to help their own skaters, I can understand them not doing it.

Pratfall
06-30-2011, 07:31 PM
Is this a chicken / egg sort of thing? I think the announcement that Thornhill would be a S"b" came before the reduction in partcipants in the GP, and the 2 or 3 event change. Am I right in this ? And could that be making a difference..?

It seems to me that the main problem here , could be the lack of opportunity for skaters that already results from the changes to the GP. ( You can give the opportunity for skaters to gain points , but if their chances of getting to the GP are still slim to nil , what's the use ? )

I feel a hissy fit coming on. Talk me down , someone.

Ziggy
07-01-2011, 04:38 AM
You know this makes me really wish that somebody without a minimum score, because they never got the chance to compete internationally, surprisingly medals at Canadian Nats (or US Nats for that matter).

seabm7
07-01-2011, 04:52 AM
Alas, what will happen to those skaters who are training in North America and hoping to get the minimum score to participate in 4CC this season? Now they should find some money to go to a European B? :(

Ziggy
07-01-2011, 04:54 AM
Alas, what will happen to those skaters who are training in North America and hoping to get the minimum score to participate in 4CC this season? Now they should find some money to go to a European B? :(

Or Europeans (if they're Euro skaters training in the US).

And yes.

And most feds don't pay your costs for Senior Bs so most of them will have to fund the trip themselves. :(

kwanfan1818
07-01-2011, 05:09 AM
And most feds don't pay your costs for Senior Bs so most of them will have to fund the trip themselves. :(
Unless something's changed in the last couple of years, there was no prize money at Nebelhorn, either. I'm not sure about the rest of the senior B's, or if there was an exhibition, and if so, if they got paid for it.


You know this makes me really wish that somebody without a minimum score, because they never got the chance to compete internationally, surprisingly medals at Canadian Nats (or US Nats for that matter).
Last season, they couldn't put Elladj Balde on the alternates list for Worlds, because he hadn't qualified a minimum score. He was fifth, but only 1.69 points behind Kevin Reynolds, who was resting an injury that had hampered him since the fall, but went back on the ice prematurely when he was called to replace Shawn Sawyer. Very bright.

Ziggy
07-01-2011, 10:56 AM
Last season, they couldn't put Elladj Balde on the alternates list for Worlds, because he hadn't qualified a minimum score. He was fifth, but only 1.69 points behind Kevin Reynolds, who was resting an injury that had hampered him since the fall, but went back on the ice prematurely when he was called to replace Shawn Sawyer. Very bright.

Yes, I remember. I am talking exactly about situations like that.

What if Balde scored a little higher and ended up on the podium?

He wouldn't be able to do 4CC or Worlds. Can you imagine...