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milanessa
10-30-2011, 02:52 PM
There is church policy and there is what people actually do. Very different things in my experience. In the Catholic school I taught at, there were only two families with more than three kids. NFP doesn't work that well. :lol:

And it is possible given ongoing dialogue between Anglicans and Catholics, that an exception would be made.

Don't know about any exceptions being made but a baptized Catholic would be considered Catholic no matter what people do in the privacy of their home.

PDilemma
10-30-2011, 02:59 PM
Don't know about any exceptions being made but a baptized Catholic would be considered Catholic no matter what people do in the privacy of their home.

I wasn't implying that not following church policy makes someone not Catholic. :rolleyes: Just pointing out that Catholics tend to ignore a lot of church policy.

It is also possible to be Catholic without being baptized in a Catholic church. Many converts are not baptized by the Catholic church. "Cradle Catholics" are, converts may or may not be.

The Vatican could make an exception for a royal couple and rule that the children not be required to be baptized or raised Catholic. And I would assume that British officials have considered the matter. They may have also considered that the business of the monarch being head of the church is more symbolic than anything as in theological and practical terms that role is filled by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

mkats
10-30-2011, 03:05 PM
Camilla gives Royal fan too ill to attend Wills & Kate's wedding a little slice of history (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2055166/Royal-fan-ill-Kate-Middleton-Williams-wedding-gets-slice-cake-Camilla.html)

Very sweet! I couldn't help but be weirded out by this, though :eek:


Mrs Relph has pledged never to eat the cake and has put it on display at her home in Shouldham, Norfolk.

Her Royal memorabilia collection fills nearly every room there and includes plates, photos, thimbles and a life-size cutout of William and Kate in the hallway.

milanessa
10-30-2011, 03:11 PM
I wasn't implying that not following church policy makes someone not Catholic. :rolleyes: Just pointing out that Catholics tend to ignore a lot of church policy.



I'm offended by your eye roll. We're just having a rational discussion (or so I thought) except that we disagree. Forget it - I'll step away.

AragornElessar
10-30-2011, 05:15 PM
In an attempt to lighten things up a bit...

Just in time for Halloween, a truly hideous piece of Royal Jewellry compliments of the Royal Order of Splendour site...

Royal Order of Splendour ~ A Very Special Tiara Friday: The Golden Poppies (http://orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2011/10/very-special-tiara-friday-golden.html)

You've been warned...:D

Lanie
10-30-2011, 05:16 PM
Holy crap, that's ugly! :rofl:

IceAlisa
10-30-2011, 05:29 PM
:yikes:

skatesindreams
10-30-2011, 06:31 PM
In an attempt to lighten things up a bit...

Just in time for Halloween, a truly hideous piece of Royal Jewellry compliments of the Royal Order of Splendour site...

Royal Order of Splendour ~ A Very Special Tiara Friday: The Golden Poppies (http://orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2011/10/very-special-tiara-friday-golden.html)

You've been warned...:D

Oh, dear!

AragornElessar
10-30-2011, 07:23 PM
I love how the owner mentions it's Daisy's personal property and therefore could will it to whichever female in the Family she wants to. Ever since reading that, I've had this image in my mind of Mary and Marie playing a game of Toss The Poppies while going...

"You can have it."

"Oh no, I insist. You can have it."

"Oh no no no....You've shown such creativity over the years w/your jewels. You must take it."

"But, as I'm now Queen Consort, I have access to so much more than you my dear sister in law. You have to have it to increase the bling of your Collection."

Can you tell I've had far too many sleep deprived nights? :D

PDilemma
10-30-2011, 07:32 PM
I love how the owner mentions it's Daisy's personal property and therefore could will it to whichever female in the Family she wants to. Ever since reading that, I've had this image in my mind of Mary and Marie playing a game of Toss The Poppies while going...

"You can have it."

"Oh no, I insist. You can have it."

"Oh no no no....You've shown such creativity over the years w/your jewels. You must take it."

"But, as I'm now Queen Consort, I have access to so much more than you my dear sister in law. You have to have it to increase the bling of your Collection."

Can you tell I've had far too many sleep deprived nights? :D

:rofl: I was wondering, when I read it, if they were each dropping hints as to why the other one deserves it so it can be directly willed.

nerdycool
10-30-2011, 08:29 PM
I actually think Mary could have it refashioned and make it look fabulous with her dark hair and modern fashion sense. But to leave it as is is just cruel.

AragornElessar
11-01-2011, 08:00 PM
Prince Daniel of Sweden is in the United States.

Nordic Food in DC: HRH Prince Daniel at the Norwegian Embassy (http://www.norway.org/News_and_events/top-stories/Nordic-Food-in-DC-HRH-Prince-Daniel-at-the-Norwegian-embassy/)

He spent a good portion of yesterday at the UN and sat in on a portion of yesterday's Session of the General Assembly.

Swedish Royal Family website ~ Prins Daniel besöker USA, dag 5 (http://www.kungahuset.se/kungafamiljen/aktuellahandelser/aretsaktuellahandelser/prinsdanielbesokerusadag5.5.70e7de59130bc8da54e800 010239.html)

Google English Translation (http://translate.google.fi/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kungahuset.se%2Fkungafamiljen%2 Faktuellahandelser%2Faretsaktuellahandelser%2Fprin sdanielbesokerusadag5.5.70e7de59130bc8da54e8000102 39.html)

Also Kate was named by Harper's Bazaar UK as The Best Dressed Woman in the UK.

Daily Mail ~ All hail the Queen of style! Duchess of Cambridge voted 'Britain's best dressed' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2055766/Kate-Middleton-Duchess-Cambridge-voted-Britains-best-dressed.html)

And don't forget about tomorrow and William and Kate meeting up w/Crown Prince Fredrick and Crown Princess Mary in Copenhagen to show the hard work that UNICEF is doing in regards to their Relief Work in Africa. Can't wait to see the four of them in action, as well as to watch Kate's really first big engagement w/non British Royals. :D

edited to add...I knew I'd forgotten something. I've been surfing through the Royal Order of Splendour the last couple of days to see what was new over there and came across this...

The Royal Order of Splendour ~ Royal Splendor 101: Royal Family Orders (http://orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2011/09/royal-splendor-101-royal-family-orders.html)

I remember there were a couple of people who were asking just what a Family Order was when some of us noticed Camilla had recieved hers when the pictures of the State Dinner for the Obamas started being released the night of the Dinner. This does a fantastic job of explaining it all and also which Royal Families have their own House Orders. :) Oh and if you scroll down to read the Comments, you'll see a link that will take you to the site of Tonga's various Orders. Their Family Order is about two thirds of the way down the page.

AragornElessar
11-02-2011, 11:58 PM
From today...

The Royal Page ~ UPDATED:The Duke & Duchess of Cambridge in Copenhagen for a Humanitarian Visit (http://theroyalpost.com/2011/11/02/the-duke-duchess-of-cambridge-in-copenhagen-for-a-humanitarian-visit/)

About a third of the way down the page, you'll see a YouTube video from the BBC of William and Catherine being interviewed. This is the first time since the Engagement Interview that Catherine's been interviewed/answered questions from the Press, so another step forward as a Royal for HRH.

Daily Mail ~ Belting good look: Chic Duchess of Cambridge arrives in Copenhagen for first joint humanitarian mission with Prince William (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2056571/Duchess-Cambridge-Kate-Middleton-arrives-Copenhagen.html)

Hello Magazine ~ Princess power: Kate and Mary join forces to help crisis-hit African children (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/201111026456/kate-and-mary-in-denmark/)

Getty Images Gallery of Today (http://www.gettyimages.ca/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=131367100&EditorialProduct=Royalty&Language=en-US)

On a purely shallow note...Not that crazy about Mary's outfit, but I adore Kate's coat. And her boots too.

On a not so shallow note...For those who think this was a visit of no benefit? According to reports over at The Royal Forums board, UNICEF's Twitter page crashed a couple of hours after the pictures went whizzing around the World due to the increase of traffic *and* they've managed to raise close to half a Million for East African Relief so far today alone.

Not bad for a visit of no benefit, huh?

Lanie
11-03-2011, 12:51 AM
Only thing I ever think seeing pictures of the Duchess of Cambridge is, "Why don't you eat?!"

danceronice
11-03-2011, 03:28 AM
The Vatican could make an exception for a royal couple and rule that the children not be required to be baptized or raised Catholic. And I would assume that British officials have considered the matter. They may have also considered that the business of the monarch being head of the church is more symbolic than anything as in theological and practical terms that role is filled by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

They don't need to. They just have an Anglican wedding and don't receive an official blessing by a Catholic priest. Nobody's agreed to anything, voila, baptize the kid an Anglican. As you say, it's valid (any Bapitism in the name of the Trinity is--some of the odder Protestant sects phrase it such that it wouldn't count, and at my RCIA confirmation there was one man in our class who was 70-something. Since he had no idea if he'd been Baptized or what phrasing they used, Father Baptized him to make sure.) The Catholic spouse would be considered to have sinned, but they don't kick you out of the club or anything.

I'm Catholic--Baptized, Confirmed. As far as the Church is concerned, unless I do something spectacularly obnoxious (like get ordained a woman priest, found a schismatic sect, or something so out of line they feel the need to actively excommunicate me-you really have to make an effort) I am Catholic until I die. I can even go around announcing I've converted to something, and if I decide to change my mind, I confess, get absolved, back in the fold and we don't say another word about it. Pretty much the only way, other than doing something requiring the full bell book and candle routine, to leave the Church in the Church's eyes is die. Any point up to then, you can always say you're sorry. They do not LIKE it, and you are going to be doing some serious penance, but in this day and age they are not going to bust out full official excommunication for marrying someone outside the Church. (And that's really if you're in a strict diocese, though a Royal marriage would probably get Rome's personal attention. There are plenty of American politicians who've gotten annulments a strict canon jurist wouldn't have allowed or who have said things that by the letter of the law should have excommunicated them, but most diocesan priests and local bishops aren't going to go there.)

Of course they're also going to consider that your one valid marriage, whether they performed it or not, unless you've got grounds for a valid annulment. If you get divorced, even if you weren't married in a Catholic service you can't remarry in the Church. Given the current Royals' track record, that could be a serious consideration....