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Jeschke
09-27-2012, 09:21 PM
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I hope Miki does well. She looked pretty fit during the summer shows (and she was shown landing a great 3T-3T in one f the practice clips). :)

do you have any links of that clip?

i wondered if miki was going for 3toe3toe (like everybody else-->kind of boring), because 3toe isnīt one of her good jumps ormaybe wasnīt.
but obviously she hadnīt any effort with her 3loop-combos.

we will see, she has a great 3lz2lo, i would build on that.

Sylvia
09-27-2012, 09:22 PM
I thought Miki withdrew from the whole GP? Or is that just a rumour at this point that she is going to withdraw?
Rumor.

rosewood
10-02-2012, 03:49 AM
Can't wait watching top skaters' new programs at Japan Open!!
Mao's Swan Lake should be soooooooo graceful:saint:
And the Carnival on Ice 2012 is the most gorgeous ever:respec:
WHEEEEEEEE

jlai
10-02-2012, 03:50 AM
Sorry for the cross posting:

There's an article about the Japanese federation sending their skaters to Cup of China after all.
http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2012-09-...96240244.shtml
There's something in there about wanting China to guarantee safety of the skaters. And the Japanese fed is also bringing extra security

inskate
10-02-2012, 09:17 AM
do you have any links of that clip?

Sorry for such a late reply! I didn't notice your post until now. :o

The clip I watched seems to be gone, but the 3-3 can be seen in this clip at 0:40 :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8lsF_b0jLE
The quality isn't the best (it looks like sonebody filmed the screen with their camera), but it's the best I could find.


i wondered if miki was going for 3toe3toe (like everybody else-->kind of boring) (...)

3-3s with loop at the end are extremely difficult to get ratified among seniors those days, I'm not surprised they are not exactly popular those days. I think we'll see more 3Lz-Ts, 3F-3Ts, etc., as the time goes on (some of the ladies who did 3T-3Ts lasts season are already doing them in practice and planning to put them in their programs this season).


because 3toe isnīt one of her good jumps or maybe wasnīt. but obviously she hadnīt any effort with her 3loop-combos.we will see, she has a great 3lz2lo, i would build on that.

I think 3T is actually one of Miki's strongest triples - she often planned it at the end of her programs, did it in shows, and was capable of landing 2A-3T and 3T-3L. I think the only times she messed it up in competition was when her condition in general was so poor that she could fall on anything.

Plus, 3Lz-3Lo wouldn't work too well for Miki in the SP. 3F is not her strong jump (after she fixed the edge it became somewhat unstable and frequent falls in practice aggravated her injuries), and she wouldn't be able to repeat 3L, so only acceptable choice left would be 3S (which she never did in the SP out of steps). 3Lz-3L + 3S = 15,3 BV, 3T-3T + 3Lz = 14,2. That's only 1,1 point of difference - and 3T-3T is likely to get up to +2 GoE if done well, while 3Lz-3L is likely to be downgraded again...

Jeschke
10-02-2012, 10:20 AM
Sorry for such a late reply! I didn't notice your post until now. :o

The clip I watched seems to be gone, but the 3-3 can be seen in this clip at 0:40 :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8lsF_b0jLE
The quality isn't the best (it looks like sonebody filmed the screen with their camera), but it's the best I could find.


thanks so much; looks solid, hope she can deliver it!

i always thought the same about mikis toe jump, but in some interview it was mentioned, that it wasnīt one of her best jumps, so 2a3t are difficult for her. i was kind of surprised cause most of the time this combo looked really strong.

but iīm not sure if a clean 3llz2t 3l 2a short will put her much behind thos with 3t3t.

problem will be yu-na kim coming back with mayby 3lz3t, even the russian wonder babies are going for the 3t3t :D

wonderlen
10-02-2012, 04:21 PM
Sorry for such a late reply! I didn't notice your post until now. :o

The clip I watched seems to be gone, but the 3-3 can be seen in this clip at 0:40 :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8lsF_b0jLE
The quality isn't the best (it looks like sonebody filmed the screen with their camera), but it's the best I could find.



Plus, 3Lz-3Lo wouldn't work too well for Miki in the SP. 3F is not her strong jump (after she fixed the edge it became somewhat unstable and frequent falls in practice aggravated her injuries), and she wouldn't be able to repeat 3L, so only acceptable choice left would be 3S (which she never did in the SP out of steps). 3Lz-3L + 3S = 15,3 BV, 3T-3T + 3Lz = 14,2. That's only 1,1 point of difference - and 3T-3T is likely to get up to +2 GoE if done well, while 3Lz-3L is likely to be downgraded again...

Gone are the days of 3F+3Lo and 3Lz+3Lo....Even Adelena Stok is revemping her jump to 3Lz+3T...she was having problem landing and getting < all last season. Once u hit puberty....bye bye to that combo

Jeschke
10-02-2012, 04:47 PM
Gone are the days of 3F+3Lo and 3Lz+3Lo....Even Adelena Stok is revemping her jump to 3Lz+3T...she was having problem landing and getting < all last season. Once u hit puberty....bye bye to that combo

yes, itīs a nice developement so many girls out there doing 3t3t and a many 2a3t, but for me personally i miss the hard combos.

some of these girls even do not have a triple flip or lutz in their program.

but maybe itīs just the time and it will probably disappear like all those sequences with 2axels at the end in the olympic season.

rosewood
10-04-2012, 10:09 AM
According to this article Japanese federation announced they send their people to Shanghai to investigate security around the link and the hotel. And also it says Japanese fed received answers from ISU and Chinese fed, that they do their best not to make any trouble during COP.
http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/f-sp-tp0-20121004-1027521.html

I just found Mao's new CF. She looks pure and beautifu in her white dress :saint: It's a kind of funny CF. Mao is reading a story about a pig which wants to clean up every toilet around the world :D
http://toiletton.com/movie/

os168
10-04-2012, 06:25 PM
Sorry for the cross posting:

There's an article about the Japanese federation sending their skaters to Cup of China after all.
http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2012-09-...96240244.shtml
There's something in there about wanting China to guarantee safety of the skaters. And the Japanese fed is also bringing extra security

Good news! In time of peril, actually sports AND arts are good uplifting exchanges to ease the tension, or certainly calm the situation for a while.

Figure skating is both, a celebration of skill and beauty. I really doubt people are going to blame/target a few young skaters who have nothing to do with the deeds of the last the generation. If they do, they should really be ashamed of themselves. There's a time and place for everything, and Cup of China is certainly not the place to unleash their protest to unrelated matters.

I am especially looking forward to Mirai making the most of her only GP assignment this year. Come on Mirai!!

kwanatic
10-05-2012, 02:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8lsF_b0jLE



Wow. I'm actually really impressed with Miki's performance here. Her Meditation program is beautiful! Is that going to be a competitive program or is that just her exhibition?

Hedwig
10-05-2012, 03:34 PM
Figure skating is both, a celebration of skill and beauty. I really doubt people are going to blame/target a few young skaters who have nothing to do with the deeds of the last the generation. If they do, they should really be ashamed of themselves. There's a time and place for everything, and Cup of China is certainly not the place to unleash their protest to unrelated matters.


OMG - think before you post. :rolleyes: There is a time and place for attacking innocent bystanders (which is what is/was feared, i.e. that random Japanese people are attacked)
And only those who attack beautiful skaters should be ashamed of themselves?

I realize that you did not mean it that way but it was worded really poorly and without giving it any thought at all. And people who attack other people should not only be ashamed of themselves but be punished. I doubt you realize what an angry mob is capable off. :wall:

Doubletoe
10-05-2012, 06:23 PM
Wow. I'm actually really impressed with Miki's performance here. Her Meditation program is beautiful! Is that going to be a competitive program or is that just her exhibition?

The length is 3:22 (neither short nor long program length) and there isn't enough content, so it's got to be her exhibition program.

os168
10-05-2012, 11:37 PM
OMG - think before you post. :rolleyes: There is a time and place for attacking innocent bystanders (which is what is/was feared, i.e. that random Japanese people are attacked)
And only those who attack beautiful skaters should be ashamed of themselves?

I realize that you did not mean it that way but it was worded really poorly and without giving it any thought at all. And people who attack other people should not only be ashamed of themselves but be punished. I doubt you realize what an angry mob is capable off. :wall:

I am glad you realize I don't mean that way, so why bring it up at all? I realise this is a time for sensitivity, so please don't embellish it into something else other than what was stated. Surely I don't have to type out there're no excuse for violence, vigilante and vandalize innocent by standers, or write an 1000 words essay on what WOULD BE the right cause of action and WHY sports and arts should continue in times of peril and wide political divide, for that they can bring people together?

I am going to share the rest of my thought on the issue in the other political incorrect thread a bit later.

Good luck to all Japanese skaters at Cup of China.

Hedwig
10-06-2012, 08:23 AM
Why bring it up at all? Because it was an insensitive post the way you posted it and I wanted to bring to your attention that you can insult when you write this way.