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Japanfan
07-10-2011, 06:58 AM
You have to be in the mood for it. I loved it but I like those kinds of movies. I think it is a love it or hate it type of movie. The ending is also left open so that could really bother some people.

I thought the ending was quite conclusive: he was guilty. Apparently, the stage play took the opposite point of view.

Rex
07-10-2011, 11:49 AM
Apart from Close, the Best Supporting Actress nominees for 1982 were Jessica Lange in Tootsie (and she won), Teri Garr in the same, Kim Stanley in Frances, and Lesley Ann Warren in Victor Victoria. The other 1984 nominees were Peggy Ashcroft in A Passage to India (and she won), Lindsay Crouse for Places in the Heart, Christine Lahti in Swing Shift, and Geraldine Page in The Pope of Greenwich Village. Close was also nominated for her supporting role in The Big Chill, but she lost to Linda Hunt as Billy Kwan in The Year of Living Dangerously (whose voice constantly gave her femaleness away IMO). I really liked Lahti in Swing Shift. It's been said that Goldie Hawn cut a lot of Lahti's scenes in the movie - she was a little miffed that she was being outshone. Hawn denied it, but the rumors persist.


I thought she was a hoot in She Devil but I just could not get past her age in Mamma Mia yet found her age-ok in Julia & Julia. Like you I have a lot of admiration for her but don't know if I can stomach a movie about Margaret Thatcher. She and Reagan were never my favorites politically. The singing in Mamma Mia was so godawful, especially her and Brosnan, that I cut it off.


My favorite Jodie Foster performance was one of her earliest...The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane. I thought she was very good in Flight Plan as well.

As for Meryl Streep, I'll probably take some flack for this but why would anyone consider her for the role of Margaret Thatcher when there are so many good British actresses in the right age range?That does not bother me, at least not from the standpoint of nationality because if you notice, scores of actors from the UK, Australia and NZ are portraying Americans in films and on TV. I do give Meryl credit for learning different accents.

duane
07-10-2011, 05:25 PM
I think Close's very best movie performance was in Dangerous Liaisons. Jodie Foster won that year for The Accused (Meryl Streep was nominated for A Cry in the Dark.)
Amazing overall performances that year, including nominated Melanie Griffith for Working Girl and Sigourney Weaver for Gorillas in the Mist, and Susan Sarandon for Bull Durham. My vote goes to Streep for Cry.

Cachoo
07-10-2011, 06:12 PM
I think I remember Streep giving a speech when she was past forty saying " Now that I am in my dotage..." --of course the theme was the lack of work for actresses once the hit middle age. I do think there are more roles now but I still get sick of film credits where you see starring actor, actress followed by several more male names and maybe one more female. Streep is one of our greats and still getting great roles but what of the others? Just had to vent about Hollywood, women and age. I hope Streep knocks it out of the park as Thatcher.

jenny12
07-10-2011, 06:42 PM
I thought the ending was quite conclusive: he was guilty. Apparently, the stage play took the opposite point of view.

Yeah, I didn't care for the film version because I thought the ending was not ambiguous at all. I saw the stage version with Cherry Jones, who, as much as I love Meryl Streep, I thought was superior in the role and the ending was a lot more gray.

Anyway, I am looking forward to Iron Lady, although I do wish the director was different.

michiruwater
07-11-2011, 01:21 AM
I didn't end the movie version of Doubt thinking he was definitely guilty. Did I miss something? I thought it was kind of boring so I may have :shuffle:

BigB08822
07-11-2011, 02:24 AM
I still thought the ending was ambiguous enough. I think they try to imply his guilt but mostly through HER doubt of his innocence. Who is to say she is right? I might need to watch it again.

I ordered Adaptation on DVD. Can't wait to get it, one of my favorite Streep movies.

soxxy
11-07-2011, 12:29 PM
The Iron Lady will be released December 30 in the US. I love the poster:

http://www-deadline-com.vimg.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/the-iron-lady-poster__111107093751.jpg

Jot the Dot Dot
11-07-2011, 02:48 PM
The Iron Lady will be released December 30 in the US. I love the poster:

http://www-deadline-com.vimg.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/the-iron-lady-poster__111107093751.jpg

My God, the likeness is uncanny!

skatesindreams
11-07-2011, 03:23 PM
Indeed it is!
It will be interesting to watch Ms. Streep create a fully-realized portrayal of Lady Thatcher.
In lesser hands, this role could become a caricature.

mrinalini
11-07-2011, 03:51 PM
If La Streep does a fab job of playing Thatcher I'll be thrilled if she wins her third Oscar, but the bits I saw of her in the trailer didn't fully convince me that she was Thatcher. I'll see the movie when it's released, of course, and I'm sure my initial impression will prove unfounded, but there was something off about the way she spoke in the trailer. The voice seemed overdone and didn't resemble Thatcher's closely enough at all.

Come to think of it, I didn't think Streep did a very good job of playing another real life person, the violin teacher Roberta Guaspari, in that movie the title of which I'm blanking out on at the moment. I thought it was one of her most lifeless portrayals. That being said, she was nominated for her umpteenth Oscar for that film so it shows what I know. :P

VIETgrlTerifa
11-07-2011, 04:12 PM
If La Streep does a fab job of playing Thatcher I'll be thrilled if she wins her third Oscar, but the bits I saw of her in the trailer didn't fully convince me that she was Thatcher. I'll see the movie when it's released, of course, and I'm sure my initial impression will prove unfounded, but there was something off about the way she spoke in the trailer. The voice seemed overdone and didn't resemble Thatcher's closely enough at all.

Come to think of it, I didn't think Streep did a very good job of playing another real life person, the violin teacher Roberta Guaspari, in that movie the title of which I'm blanking out on at the moment. I thought it was one of her most lifeless portrayals. That being said, she was nominated for her umpteenth Oscar for that film so it shows what I know. :P

You're thinking about Music of the Heart. Maybe Streep would have been better had she had more time to prepare. She was a last-minute replacement for Madonna after Wes Craven (yes, that Wes Craven!) and Madonna had creative differences. Meryl Streep has the distinction of being the only actor nominated for a Wes Craven film, I believe.

We have to see what the buzz is like for The Iron Lady but it seems that it would be difficult to defeat the Viola Davis (The Help) and Glenn Close (Albert Nobbs) who are getting the most buzz right now.

Rex
11-07-2011, 04:15 PM
You're thinking about Music of the Heart. Maybe Streep would have been better had she had more time to prepare. She was a last-minute replacement for Madonna after Wes Craven (yes, that Wes Craven!) and Madonna had creative differences. Meryl Streep has the distinction of being the only actor nominated for a Wes Craven film, I believe.

Meryl Streep replacing Madonna...there's something you don't hear or see every day.

VIETgrlTerifa
11-07-2011, 04:27 PM
Meryl Streep replacing Madonna...there's something you don't hear or see every day.

I read an excerpt over what happened between Craven and Madonna, and it was that Wes Craven truly believed Madonna would have had an acting breakthrough with this role (she was willing to work hard for it and studied the violin for 10 weeks beforehand) if she revealed a vulnerable, sensitive side Craven felt she had. Of course, we all know how Madonna has trouble doing any of that and can't let go of having control. Thus the fall-out.

mrinalini
11-07-2011, 04:28 PM
You're thinking about Music of the Heart.

Yes, that's it! Thanks, VIETgrl. I knew it was Music-something or the other. Gawd, what an awful title - I'd have avoided watching the film based on the title alone if I hadn't known that Streep was playing the lead role.

I've seen a clip of Close in Albert Nobbs, and she did indeed look impressive if only in that short scene. I've always found her a tad mannish so perhaps playing the role isn't that much of a stretch for Close. :P I've never been ape over Close because she gives off a bitchy vibe, but she's given some good performances and is long overdue, so I won't complain if she wins the BA Oscar.


Meryl Streep replacing Madonna...there's something you don't hear or see every day.

Didn't I read something about Streep wanting to tear Madonna's throat out if Madge got to play Evita? It's a pity that the first scenario didn't pan out and a pity that the second one did. :lol: