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Lara
05-29-2011, 02:20 AM
At intermission. First act was wonderful and Cojocaru is sublime in this role. I'm not in technik when it comes to ballet but there's a part in her solo where she flutters her legs (battiment perhaps?) and she was light as air. So lovely. Looking forward to act 2!

PML, someone next to me is also wondering why Hilarion's to blame! :lol:

beepbeep
05-29-2011, 03:18 AM
I'm envying you guys sooo much right now...
And I'm delighted to read your impressions here :).

Since I live in the forgotten land of international ballet (no company *ever* comes over, we had the Kirov in 2000 and that was it :wuzrobbed ), I'll limit myself to post youtubes.

Speaking of Gamzatti (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm9k3D4AwoM&feature=related)

Is the entire broadcast of this available somewhere? I'd love to get my hands (eyes :P) on it
I've seen excerpts on youtube, and I honestly think there are no better Nikiya/Gamzatti as Asylmuratova/Bussell.

Holley Calmes
05-29-2011, 04:16 AM
Darcy Bussell! My favorite Gamzatti......iconic. Thanks for reminding me.

emason
05-29-2011, 04:24 AM
I'm envying you guys sooo much right now...
And I'm delighted to read your impressions here :).



Thanks for posting; that was interesting to look at, but I don't think you are going to be delighted to read my impression. Bussell is telegraphing her turns way too much for my taste. As we used to say, 'her technique is showing'; that's not a good thing so far as I am concerned.

However, I don't think I have ever seen a Gamzatti I thought was truly good. I don't remember who danced with Vishneva when the Kirov brought it to NY several years ago, but that Gamzatti was good IIRC. None of ABT's dancers ever do it for me in this role, and except for that Kirov performance, I've never seen another company do Bayadere. Alas, I have also never had a chance to see Bussell dance, so I shouldn't really judge her on that one clip, but really, I don't think she's good in that clip - she's not dancing, she's just executing some moves.

Running away from the tar and feathers now.

IceAlisa
05-29-2011, 04:24 AM
Apparently my favorite ballerina Diana Vishneva did the Dying Swan at some point. And there is no video on youtube! :fragile: :wall:

If anyone ever comes across a video of this, please please please post. I would be eternally grateful.

I would love to see how she compares to the sublime Lopatkina Dying Swan.

beepbeep
05-29-2011, 04:57 AM
Thanks for posting; that was interesting to look at, but I don't think you are going to be delighted to read my impression. Bussell is telegraphing her turns way too much for my taste. As we used to say, 'her technique is showing'; that's not a good thing so far as I am concerned.

...

Running away from the tar and feathers now.

:lol:
Besides some years on Adult Ballet classes, I'm not much of teknik, so unless it's really bad (Somova in her old days bad) I really don't mind.
And I meant your impressions from the live preformances you guys have been watching these days.

What I like about Darcey here is her portrayal of the role, the maturity (am I making sense here??). They just don't make them like that these days.
Ok, maybe Dupont, but I've never watched her as Gamzatti.

emason
05-29-2011, 05:02 AM
:lol:
Besides some years on Adult Ballet classes, I'm not much of teknik, so unless it's really bad (Somova in her old days bad) I really don't mind.
And I meant your impressions from the live preformances you guys have been watching these days.

What I like about Darcey here is her portrayal of the role, the maturity (am I making sense here??). They just don't make them like that these days.
Ok, maybe Dupont, but I've never watched her as Gamzatti.


I'm actually not in much teknik, either, but some things really bother me when I see them. However, yes, you are making sense. Gamzatti needs to be strong; after all she is a rajah's daughter. All the ABT dancers I have seen are much too passive; I think they have been brainwashed into thinking Nikiya is the be all and end all of the ballet and they shouldn't do anything to detract from the star - wrong.

IceAlisa
05-29-2011, 05:06 AM
I saw this video of Dupont's Kitri (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPVsG_-8sN0) and it was :yawn:. Where's the fire, the Spanish temperament? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt8PGNDCryE)

beepbeep
05-29-2011, 05:18 AM
I saw this video of Dupont's Kitri (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPVsG_-8sN0) and it was :yawn:. Where's the fire, the Spanish temperament? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt8PGNDCryE)

You're comparing her (Dupont) to best firecracker these days. :D I was going for Dupont for the maturity factor.
I haven't watched that one of Osipova before, thanks, that was awsome.

We had the Cuban ballet here some years ago and it was the very best Don Q I've ever seen (although I can't remember the line up to save my life...). Flawless interpretation (well, they're latin...). Bonus of having Alicia Alonso being walked to the stage to take bows with the cast at the end.

Has anyone watched Semionova in Don Q with the ABT? I read she was quite good.

IceAlisa
05-29-2011, 05:29 AM
You're comparing her (Dupont) to best firecracker these days. :D I was going for Dupont for the maturity factor.
I haven't watched that one of Osipova before, thanks, that was awsome. True, there is no firecracker more fiery than Osipova. Her La Sylphide is also fantastic. I think dramatic roles like the second act of Giselle are her weak point.


Has anyone watched Semionova in Don Q with the ABT? I read she was quite good.

:eek: I would LOVE to see that.

Lara
05-29-2011, 07:09 AM
Back home. :coffee:

I'm so very grateful to have seen this. I only wish I was knowledgeable enough to fully appreciate just how good it was.

Holley Calmes
05-29-2011, 01:30 PM
:lol:
What I like about Darcey here is her portrayal of the role, the maturity (am I making sense here??). They just don't make them like that these days.
Ok, maybe Dupont, but I've never watched her as Gamzatti.

Absolutely! Gamzatti is a conniving, scheming, murderess, man-snatching bitch who likes to slap her rivals around. Imperious too. She is the perfect foil for the goodness of Nikiya. A limp Gamzatti would destroy the dramatic tension of the whole ballet! Besides, what actress worth her salt wouldn't rather play a bitch than the good girl? Well..ok...maybe some, but I know I'd rather play a bad girl any day! :lol:

IceAlisa
05-30-2011, 09:27 PM
So I've been in an Osipova state of mind (I adore her) and thought that the Esmeralda variation and even some moves would make a great short program for Mirai: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV0jT1Do6NQ&feature=related

(how awesome is this Esmeralda? Even with the telegraphed and a bit wonky turns). The end pose SO reminds me of Sasha Cohen. :lol:

beepbeep
05-30-2011, 11:04 PM
^I think I've seen it about some 30 times already :lol: I love it too.
Given it's a triple pirouette, and she was 17, I can overlook it ('cause I'm a specialist :P )

Here's Maria Kochetkova's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGcyI1ARS6c&feature=related . Solid! (I still prefer, Osipova's though)

And the title of best Esmeralda variation ever goes to...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdiQvyWQo2o :)

IceAlisa
05-30-2011, 11:38 PM
And the title of best Esmeralda variation ever goes to...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdiQvyWQo2o :)

OMG, this is too cute for words! Excellent handling of the tambourine! Adorable.