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julieann
10-28-2011, 06:37 AM
Sorry, but this is just :rolleyes:. You make it sound like Novice and Junior Nationals is on the same level as some kindergarten play or something. There's no reason to belittle what Keauna accomplished prior to teaming up with Rockne

I wasn't belittling her; but don't make it sound like the time she competed from the age of 11 to 14 was the same as her competing on the same level as Aliona and Robin at senior worlds, because it's not even close. Even Keauna and Rockne had a ways to go to get to that level. They didn't even make the olympic team. Maybe they could have got there....we will never know.

BittyBug
10-28-2011, 06:45 AM
I said that if everyone skated clean......If everyone skated clean, we'd know the end of days was upon us.

stjeaskategym
10-28-2011, 07:06 AM
I don't think that poster is saying that there could be a miracle and everyone may skate clean. She's commenting on Marley/Brubaker's presentation.


When Keauna competed at her first senior Nationals (in 2008), she was 14 years old but already had 4 years of pairs skating under her belt.

Sort of. Keauna didn't skate pairs the year before she teamed with Rockne. I'm not sure how it matters how many years experience she, or Caydee, or Caitlin, had anyway. Those girls' experiences in pairs are all so different. I don't really see a point in using the competitive histories of other skaters to help judge Mary Beth's pair skating. :lol: :confused: Everyone learns and is pushed along at different rates.


Isn't Leftheris a little out of the competitive loop and rather old to be with either Caitlin or Keauna? Besides Keauna gave up the best partner she would have had. If she only wanted a year off from skating I think she would have said so and not quit completely.

Sometimes you don't really know that you only want to take a year off until you take that year off. It's not really that uncommon for athletes at certain points in their lives to reevaluate their decisions to leave a sport.

As for Leftheris, he was still skating competitively as recently as this summer, so I wouldn't say he's that out of the loop. But yeah, he is older. I don't quite know what his plans are for competitive skating, but if nothing else, he would make an excellent practice partner. I mean, Sr pair guys certainly do not grow on trees. And he's not exactly ancient for a pair guy.

DORISPULASKI
10-28-2011, 05:48 PM
This kind of result does not bode super well for Marley & Brubaker.

Beaten by Cain and Reagan. PCS about the same, M&B a little ahead.

Cup of Nice SP today

1 Stefania BERTON / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA 57.64 31.52 26.12 6.45 6.15 6.75 6.60 6.70 0.00 #8
2 Katarina GERBOLDT / Aleksander ENBERT RUS 55.18 29.22 25.96 6.75 6.35 6.20 6.55 6.60 0.00 #6
3 Ashley CAIN / Joshua REGAN USA 53.04 29.56 24.48 5.95 5.85 6.30 6.30 6.20 1.00 #12
4 Mary Beth MARLEY / Rockne BRUBAKER USA 52.04 27.04 25.00 6.40 5.95 6.40 6.25 6.25 0.00 #10

haribobo
10-28-2011, 06:15 PM
Well they scored over 50. Evora/Ladwig scored in the 40s for their SP's on the GP for years before they made it to their 10th place Olympics finish.

~tapdancer~
10-28-2011, 06:22 PM
One point difference? That's nothing at this point.

mapleleaf
10-28-2011, 06:38 PM
This kind of result does not bode super well for Marley & Brubaker.

Beaten by Cain and Reagan. PCS about the same, M&B a little ahead.

Cup of Nice SP today

1 Stefania BERTON / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA 57.64 31.52 26.12 6.45 6.15 6.75 6.60 6.70 0.00 #8


Nice score. They were fantastic last year!

winterone
10-28-2011, 07:16 PM
Ashley is getting tall and still doing well!

outsideedge22
10-28-2011, 08:41 PM
I said that if everyone skated clean, I wouldn't expect M/B to be in the top five. With no falls and landed SBS jumps, I'd expect E/L, D/B, C/S, D/S, S/B at least to all come in ahead of M/B.

I'll be thrilled if she develops some fabulous pairs skills and presence on the ice. I certainly was surprised by Shen and Zhao, who managed to go years with nothing much but good jumps and good throw landings, but who eventually developed into a gorgeous pairs team.

Nothing against her -- and I guess we'd all agree that she's got a lot of room to grow.

Curious, while there is some question about senior pairs today, are there any junior or novice teams that look promising to compete in the next few years or are the current senior teams all we can count on for the next three to five years?

~tapdancer~
10-28-2011, 08:45 PM
Curious, while there is some question about senior pairs today, are their any junior or novice teams that look promising to compete in the next few years or are the current senior teams all we can count on for the next three to five years?
Well, I sure like our junior pair Simpson/Blackmer. They looked very good in the JGP and are in the final.

barbk
10-28-2011, 10:21 PM
Well, I sure like our junior pair Simpson/Blackmer. They looked very good in the JGP and are in the final.

And they have to skate senior at Nationals, right?

Sylvia
10-28-2011, 10:38 PM
Simpson/Blackmer are skating junior at 2012 Nationals (Britney can do this because she didn't skate senior at Sectionals last season and WD from Nationals).

barbk
10-28-2011, 10:47 PM
Did not know that. I thought that once you tested up to a level, you had to enter at that level in the USFSA qualifying competition structure. Is this the way it now works for all disciplines?

chachacha
10-28-2011, 11:28 PM
One point difference? That's nothing at this point.

Totally agree there is not a lot of a point difference. Rockne and Mary Beth have plenty of time to progress. They just need to stick it out as they are showing progress. Mary Beth's presentation has improved and they will continue to progress. Instance Success doesn't define how a team will do in the overall scheme of things. They just need to stick it out.

Sylvia
10-28-2011, 11:38 PM
I thought that once you tested up to a level, you had to enter at that level in the USFSA qualifying competition structure. Is this the way it now works for all disciplines?
No, that's the way it is for pairs and dance.

From the USFS rulebook:

5210 Junior Pairs
A. Test qualifications as of the closing date for entry to the regional
championships: Both partners must have passed the junior moves in the
field test or higher and the junior pair test (see note).
Note: It is permissible for one or both of the partners to have passed the
senior pair test and still remain eligible to compete at the junior level,
provided that neither partner has competed at the senior pair level in a
qualifying competition. Further, if a skater chooses to compete at the
junior pair level, he/she must do so with a partner other than the one with
whom he/she passed the senior pair test.
(See Rule 6210 for Junior Dance)

ETA: I believe this pairs/dance rule has been in place for quite some time.