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olympic
05-07-2011, 02:19 PM
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/sports_globetrotting/2011/05/vidmar-mormons-same-sex-marriage-opposition-us-olympic-committee-johnny-weir.html

Peter Vidmar has been selected a USOC Chief of Mission and Johnny Weir has something to say about it due to Peter's viewpoints on Same Sex Marriage

This is a weird marriage [no pun intended] of Figure Skating and Gymnastics, of which there are many fans on this board.

What do you all think?

newbatgirl
05-07-2011, 02:29 PM
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/sports_globetrotting/2011/05/vidmar-mormons-same-sex-marriage-opposition-us-olympic-committee-johnny-weir.html

Peter Vidmar has been selected a USOC Chief of Mission and Johnny Weir has something to say about it due to Peter's viewpoints on Same Sex Marriage

This is a weird marriage [no pun intended] of Figure Skating and Gymnastics, of which there are many fans on this board.

What do you all think?

Vidmar has since stepped down.
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/sports_globetrotting/2011/05/olympic-champions-naber-mendoza-disagree-womens-sports-foundation.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

kittyjake5
05-07-2011, 02:40 PM
Michelle is available. ;)

ProgramerUSFS
05-07-2011, 04:20 PM
The more I watch Phil and his stories the more I think he has great insight, and really broke the story resulting in Vidmar's step down. Think about it, the Olympics is about equality, and I think Johnny was spot on, as having Vidmar with his views would be like having someone who thinks African Americans are wrong. The personal views of anyone as it relates to their political views, sexual preferences, race, color and creed, need to be kept out of sports and especially out of the judging considerations at USFS events. And you all know what I am talking about, as we don't need to bring up those PCS scores and the US judges who didn't judge based on what they saw in skating, but used their power to push their belief in what the US wanted as a skater image.

Aceon6
05-07-2011, 05:07 PM
Agree, if it's not something that can be fixed, and I don't believe sexual preference can be "fixed", it should have no bearing. Would you ask an African athlete to look Swedish? Everyone deserves to be judged on what they do, not on what the judges prefer.

Macassar88
05-07-2011, 05:31 PM
Michelle is available. ;)
Yes please. I think she would be an amazing chef de mision.

lexeoe
05-07-2011, 06:39 PM
i have a feeling michelle might be the chef de mision in sochi.

ltnskater
05-07-2011, 06:47 PM
i have a feeling michelle might be the chef de mision on sochi.

Who says?! I overheard Michelle would be too busy competing in Sochi... especially with the new team event, she will be even more busy...

Rottie
05-07-2011, 07:39 PM
I would have no problem with Vidmar believing that marriage should be restricted to one man/one woman if only his personal beliefs were involved. The U.S. Olympic team should be inclusive of everyone, regardless of faith or beliefs about personal relationships. But since he's been a public, political activist in seeking that legal definition of marriage be codified into law, I do think that makes him unsuited to represent a diverse U.S. team.

Michelle would be awesome if, as Itnskater says, she's not too busy. ;)

aftershocks
05-07-2011, 07:57 PM
^^ ITA! Also, glad to hear that Vidmar has since stepped down.


Someone who posted in the comments section of the article made a great point:

"'The Church has a single, undeviating standard of sexual morality'
Undeviating? Oh really? 100 years ago the 'Church' said a man could have as many wives as he wanted and that was perfectly moral. Why is it that the Church of Mormon can change its definition of marriage but the rest of society cannot?
The bottom line is: should a man who campaigned to take away rights from fellow citizens be held up as a model for young people, and given a position to represent the entire United States? I say NO."

barbk
05-07-2011, 10:41 PM
I'm not at all thrilled with this, and I'm a strong supporter of gay marriage. If a woman was appointed to the same position who was anti-abortion, I'd still feel the same way. When we have these kind of litmus tests for these kinds of appointed positions, we open the door to the next litmus test being one we really don't like when the "other" group gains power.

Peter Vidmar competed long and honorably as an inter-collegiate and the Olympic gymnast. Those are the qualifications that should have been considered, and the push to get him to step down was, imo, ill-considered, and likely to make those opposed to gay marriage feel even more strongly that the "gay lobby" has too much power.

The bottom line is this: there is massive disagreement within the US about gay marriage, and attitudes are slowly shifting in favor of it. But actions such as this one do not do anything except convince others that more anti-gay legislation is needed. Be careful what you wish for.

Sayana_mnk
05-08-2011, 06:01 AM
When we have these kind of litmus tests for these kinds of appointed positions, we open the door to the next litmus test being one we really don't like when the "other" group gains power.

Well said...I absolutely agree.

mike1709
05-08-2011, 06:05 AM
Both of Hershs' articles make uncomfortable reading for me due to their 'witchhunt' elements. Hersh got the result of Peter Vidmar resigning from the job of chef de mission of the 2012 US Olympic Team to write about. He was helped a great deal by the input of Johnny Weir.

It would still make uncomfortable reading if Peter Vidmar was a public supporter of same sex marriage, and had to step down due to the controversy of that support.

While Johnny Weir will be proud of his input into the situation, and the gay community will be toasting and congratulating him, I can't help wondering whether Peter Vidmar, who was a 'disgraceful' appointment, may well have done an excellent job as chef de mission. We will never know. He and his family must have been initially proud of his appointment, just as Johnny Weir and his family would have been proud of him being chosen to represent the USA at the 2010 Winter Olympic Games.

Philip Hersh has now moved on to writing about playoffs and the Kentucky Derby. It appears that neither he nor Johnny Weir have any feelings of responsibility for the manner in which Peter Vidmar resigned.

I would like to say that I have always supported the gay community, but the fascist manner (i.e. opposition is not allowed) worries me in this case.

'Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones'. Chaucer 1385. Troilus & Criseyde.

Kwantumleap
05-08-2011, 06:13 AM
It's an East Coast vs. West Coast thing.

overedge
05-08-2011, 08:10 AM
Canada's chef de mission for the 2012 Summer Games is Mark Tewksbury, who is also an Olympic medalist, and who has also been involved in sport administration and in the Olympic administration.He also has a very admirable record of activism on behalf of athletes, and of promotion of their interests and concerns. He's also openly gay and is an activist on gay issues.

If I might play devil's advocate here, should he also be asked to step down because he might discriminate against athletes who don't share his views?