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valpadana
05-16-2011, 01:58 PM
I totally agree with Belinda's comments above. This pair has a v. special quality ...

Yuko's awkwardness and fiery character combined with Smirnov's gentle touch always creates magic for me. In fact, I like nearly all their long programmes in the past - Love story, Paliogacci (can't remember the spelling :lol:) and this year's claire de lune (It's v. touching indeed ... there's so much LOVE in that programme :wuzrobbed). It would be so sad to see them leave after the performances in Moscow. I am hoping they can stay until Sochi and sneak a bronze medal there, but I just don't know whether Yuko's body will allow her to do so ......... :(

Yuko's life should be turned into a movie (all the sacrifices she made to move to Russia, to learn the lingo, dislocated shoulders, etc., etc.,)

And anyway, whatever happens, they will always be the 2010 European Champions and multiple time world medallists!!

I agree with you...I like them very much !
By a stroke of luck I had a talk with them in Turin, they are so kind!! (And Yuko so shy:):))
For you, I am from Italy, exact spelling....PAGLIACCI !!:)

Vash01
05-16-2011, 09:03 PM
I like K&S a lot. I think Claire de lune is their best LP so far. I think they skated it perfectly at either the Euro or GPF (can't remember which one). They have not really reached their true potential, so it is good to hear they plan to compete till Sochi.

After T&M's retirement, K&S was the only Russian pair that could have won better than just a bronze. They were the reason Russia had 3 spots at the Olympics, so I can see why the Russian crowd loves them.

I would just like to see them reach the top- win a world title in the next few years. There are a lot of very talented young pairs in Russia right now, and even making the world/Oly team will be a huge talent. I think next year may be their best chance of winning a world championship. Given how delicate Yuko is on the surface, and how strong inside, it will be nice to see her and Smirnov win a world championship.

easilydistracte
09-24-2011, 01:27 AM
Yuko & Sasha's new SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVa8purXUV4 . I think this is from the test skate a couple of weeks ago and maybe the third(?) time they performed it in public.

I'm really curious to see what kind of costumes K&S will have for this program. Is it sick of me to want them to be clad from tops to toes in black leather (or a reasonable facsimile thereof), with silver-studded accents/accessories, for this SP? (Don't think a unitard would look good on Yuko, though. Maybe a thigh-length long-sleeved tunic--with lacing up the back--over tight leggings?) Further, even though I think Yuko's new hairstyle is kind of a nice change for her, I think for this number I'd like to see her hair all jagged and a little spiky and streaked--with pink or purple or magenta--and her makeup dark, dark, dark. (What a contrast to their LP!)

Glad that Peter Tchernyshev is continuing to choreograph for them and love how the choreography goes so well with the music. Even though this program still needs some work, I think his programs seem to bring out the best in them. Really looking forward to seeing how this SP develops ["More speed!! [B]More attitude!!!"] throughout the season, and also whether and how much their "Clair de Lune" changes for this year.

(Oh, yeah, found this article (http://www.ifsmagazine.com/articles/521-yuko-kavaguti-alexander-smirnov-find-new-motivation) earlier this summer but didn't bother to post a link to it [lazy]. I think the interview was conducted and the article was written prior to worlds even though it was not published until June. Interesting comments from them both.)

Really hoping that they stay healthy [no illnesses or injuries, please!] and that they have a tremendously successful season! Should be interesting.

Vash01
09-24-2011, 01:52 AM
[Bumping this thread up since it hasn't been archived, yet.]

Yuko & Sasha's new SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVa8purXUV4 . I think this is from the test skate a couple of weeks ago and maybe the third(?) time they performed it in public.

Really hoping that they stay healthy [no illnesses or injuries, please!] and that they have a tremendously successful season! Should be interesting.

I like this program. Didn't care much for the music though. I hope they have great success this season.

Miriam246
09-24-2011, 08:23 AM
Thank you for posting the new SP! I adore them.

Belinda
09-27-2011, 08:06 PM
Hi,
I stumbled on these photos (see bottom of page 45), which look as if taken from a Clair de Lune test skate recently (see Yuko's hair). Does anyone know where to find the video?
http://figureskating.ipb.su/lofiversion/index.php/t65-2200.html

Frau Muller
09-27-2011, 08:34 PM
[....Yuko & Sasha's new SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVa8purXUV4 . I think this is from the test skate a couple of weeks ago and maybe the third(?) time they performed it in public......

I'm not sold, sorry. The pounding blues music is not only headache-inducing but serves to accentuate their push-push-push style. A step backwards in artistry and audience appeal, IMO. Then again, maybe K/S were purposely seeking music that goes with general sloppiness? (Sloppiness looks ten-times worse with classical music...but is somewhat part of blues and jazz...carefree attitude??? Just guessing why the chose the pounding blues.)

That said, I'll CHEER for Claire de Lune!

julieann
09-27-2011, 08:36 PM
Hi,
I stumbled on these photos (see bottom of page 45), which look as if taken from a Clair de Lune test skate recently (see Yuko's hair). Does anyone know where to find the video?
http://figureskating.ipb.su/lofiversion/index.php/t65-2200.html

I think that was from the Cup of St. Petersburg but I don't know what day it was, nor have I seen any videos posted yet. They didn't do their long at the test skate.

julieann
09-27-2011, 08:44 PM
I'm not sold, sorry. The pounding blues music is not only headache-inducing but serves to accentuate their push-push-push style. A step backwards in artistry and audience appeal, IMO. Then again, maybe K/S were purposely seeking music that goes with general sloppiness? (Sloppiness looks ten-times worse with classical music...but is somewhat part of blues and jazz...carefree attitude??? Just guessing why the chose the pounding blues.)

That said, I'll CHEER for Claire de Lune!

I don't think they looked any more sloppy than the rest of the test skaters, they are all just getting use to a program at the beginning of the season. I'm sure many changes will happen by worlds. I'm glad they chose to skate to an actual song than a Muzak version of a pop song.

I wish they had performed their long. I'm hoping for changes especially in difficulty.

easilydistracte
09-27-2011, 11:23 PM
Hi,
I stumbled on these photos (see bottom of page 45), which look as if taken from a Clair de Lune test skate recently (see Yuko's hair). Does anyone know where to find the video?
http://figureskating.ipb.su/lofiversion/index.php/t65-2200.htmlThanks for the link Belinda! Nice pics. The photo at the bottom of the page of them in their exhibition costumes is very interesting. I kind of envision how Yuko's hair and makeup are done in that photo as how she should have it done in their new SP.

Also, the interview with Moskvina at the very bottom of the page is informative, too. [Used Google Translate to read it.] Yuko got stung by a bee and had to spend a week in the hospital because of an allergic reaction?!! Jeez, what next?!

Belinda
10-03-2011, 05:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAvTuxGXqE&feature=player_embedded

Not sure if I like this or not, nor do I know why the change in choreography.
Perhaps they've had to change to comply with this season's rules, or to increase the difficulty? The latest version seems to be less in tune with the music. I find it a bit of an uphill struggle to root for this team.

julieann
10-03-2011, 05:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAvTuxGXqE&feature=player_embedded

Not sure if I like this or not, nor do I know why the change in choreography.
Perhaps they've had to change to comply with this season's rules, or to increase the difficulty? The latest version seems to be less in tune with the music. I find it a bit of an uphill struggle to root for this team.

I'm not sure what changes in choreography you are talking about. The order of elements was the same as worlds and most of the choreography was left unchanged. Some of the changes I noticed were for the better.

The thing I noticed that was really weird was the first jumps were a 3T and 2T and it looked like Smirnov was setting up to do a second Axel if Kavaguti didn't fall, isn't that one jump too many? I'm assuming the second Axel wouldn't count.

BTW, Yuko looked pretty but they did look sluggish, they are all probably sick of having to do test skates. I just hope every element gets points, for all the teams.

Belinda
10-03-2011, 09:56 PM
I'm not sure what changes in choreography you are talking about. The order of elements was the same as worlds and most of the choreography was left unchanged. Some of the changes I noticed were for the better.

The order remains the same but the performance starts earlier and partly because of that some of the little arm movements & footwork which used to highlight particular notes in the music are either gone or no longer in tune, however, if the change is for the better (for upping the difficulty etc?), I would be happy.

easilydistracte
11-07-2011, 02:50 AM
K&S CoC SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjfhMxh5YUA&feature)
K&S CoC LP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOy72ik3NfU)
CoC Pairs Podium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-nEJH8Dm6w&feature)
K&S CoC EXH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdbj1MBud-8&feature)
Gala Finale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or3h9dfbyFk) (Got this from where Lexxandra linked it in the CoC Gala thread.) All kinds of fun!

Major thanks to everyone who posted on YouTube so quickly! Awesome!

A few thoughts:

SP: Good new direction for them. Somewhat concerned about their death spiral and pairs spin, though. Seemed really slow on both; plus, the ending was really awkward--looks as if they may have messed it up. If they're going to do the Natalia Mishkutenok spin, I think they need to dial it up to warp speed. (Still want to see them in black leather for this. Would rather see Yuko as biker chick instead of lingerie model. That said, I like her new look. "She don't look like no little girl no more, that's for durn sure!")

LP: Glad that they kept it for another year. Should be great by Russian Nationals. (Liked the way they left the ice arm-in-arm and how Sasha made Yuko laugh in the K&C--about 9:25 in the video. Their partnership seems to be much warmer now than it has seemed in the past.)

Podium: Nice to hear the Russian National Anthem playing for a pairs podium. Yuko looks kind of teary-eyed during the flag-raising. [Unrelated comment: Zhang Dan is tremendously tall, isn't she? I can't help but think that she has the potential to be absolutely magnificent and imposing on the ice. Hope she and Zhang Hao can get it together eventually.]

EXH: Same number they performed at the Triumph of Tamara Moskvina gala. Choreographed by Bobrin & Bestemianova, maybe? I think their final lift may have come down, but they seemed to have invented some choreography on the spot to cover it up. Sasha tearing his shirt open?! Oh, my!

General thoughts: JMO but, there seems to be kind of a subtle but rather significant change in this team this season. Can't really put my finger on it, but they seem less anxious and just calmer in general. More settled, maybe? Don't really know how to put it into words. Whatever, glad that they're finally becoming a pair. I've read in various places that they're still hoping to put the throw 4Sal in the LP. Have mixed feelings about that and am a little confused, because I thought that they had been training a throw 3Flip/Lutz during the summer of 2010. Wonder why they abandoned it? Anyway, looking forward to the rest of the season.

paskatefan
11-07-2011, 10:08 AM
I like them, and were very pleased with their free skate from Cup of China.