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floskate
04-26-2011, 03:02 PM
Zayak still had the loop despite doubling it. She landed it at '8 Nationals, '84 Olympics and Worlds. Sumners for sure had a toe and sal. Was it at Skate Canada one year (I'm thinking 1981) where Sumners attempted 5 triples in her LP (3 toes and 2 sals)? I think she fell on one.

judgejudy27
04-26-2011, 08:29 PM
Who was it that skated last at the 82 Worlds in the long program. Some videos I have seen indicate Wegelius of Finland the leader skated last, while others indicate Kay Thomson of Canada skated last.

pollyanna
04-27-2011, 03:15 AM
Vikkie de Vries and Tiffany Chin actually tied in ordinals at the 1983 U.S. Nationals, but Tiffany won the tie-break by virtue of her 3rd place finish in the LP, whereas de Vries finished 5th in the LP. Vikki had an off night. She completed a 3salchow, but fell on a 3toe, and another attempted triple and 2 double axels were not landed cleanly. Chin completed 2 3toes, missed an attempted 3salchow, and had 3 excellent double axels in her program, including one out of an Ina Bauer.

pollyanna
04-27-2011, 03:23 AM
1982 Worlds Ladies results:

1) Zayak 4-10-1 = 7.4
2) Witt 9-1-2 = 7.8
3) Kristofics-Binder 1-9-4 = 8.2
4) Leistner 14-2-3 = 12.2
5) Vodorezova 5-3-8 = 12.2
6) Sumners 11-4-5 = 13.2
7) de Vries 8-7-6 = 13.6
8) Thomson 6-6-9 = 15.0
9) Wegelius 2-5-12 = 15.2
10) Cottrill 3-8-17 = 22.0

13) Manley 23-11-7 = 25.2

Interesting that one panel of judges was used for compulsory figures and the short program, and a completely different panel of judges was used for the LP.


I think Claudia Kristofics-Binder gets gold if she had placed 3rd in the long program instead of 4th. Interestingly, Claudia was Austrian Sportswoman of the year for the 2nd consecutive year after this result at 1982 worlds.

Based on the above placements, you are correct. So close!

olympic
04-27-2011, 04:05 PM
1982 Worlds Ladies results:

1) Zayak 4-10-1 = 7.4
2) Witt 9-1-2 = 7.8
3) Kristofics-Binder 1-9-4 = 8.2
4) Leistner 14-2-3 = 12.2
5) Vodorezova 5-3-8 = 12.2
6) Sumners 11-4-5 = 13.2
7) de Vries 8-7-6 = 13.6
8) Thomson 6-6-9 = 15.0
9) Wegelius 2-5-12 = 15.2
10) Cottrill 3-8-17 = 22.0

13) Manley 23-11-7 = 25.2

Interesting that one panel of judges was used for compulsory figures and the short program, and a completely different panel of judges was used for the LP.



Based on the above placements, you are correct. So close!

Does anyone know what happened to Cottrill here, after being 4th and such a strong skater at '81 Worlds?? :eek:

I wonder what Manley's skating looked like in '82. How old is she??

pollyanna
04-27-2011, 05:58 PM
I wonder what Manley's skating looked like in '82. How old is she??

skatesindreams posted her 1982 Worlds LP upthread. :)

judgejudy27
04-27-2011, 08:03 PM
I read an old Ottawa article that said Kay Thomson who came in 6th in the short skated clean, and Cottril probably did as well if her coach was that upset. I am guessing that means Sumners, Wegelius, Thomson, DeVries, and Cottril all skated clean in the short and yet were all placed behind Voderezova who made a major error which would be ridiculous if that was the case, especialy with how far Binder and Zayak were put down.