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bartek
04-23-2011, 04:56 PM
Here is my next video with triple-triples. This time Maria Butyrskaya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN5cFTarbn4

Please enjoy, share & comment!

Clay
04-23-2011, 06:15 PM
Boy, she really uses her arms on those salchows.

....not really a triple triple, but I think she tried a double lutz-triple toe at Skate America in 1996. It was in the short program and likely intended to be a triple lutz-double toe. I'm not sure if she practiced other triple-triples.

Somewhere there is a video of her landing a triple axel at 1996 Worlds.
It was in an exhibition practice and Dick and Peggy were introducing the program.

bartek
04-23-2011, 06:28 PM
Boy, she really uses her arms on those salchows.

....not really a triple triple, but I think she tried a double lutz-triple toe at Skate America in 1996. It was in the short program and likely intended to be a triple lutz-double toe. I'm not sure if she practiced other triple-triples.

Somewhere there is a video of her landing a triple axel at 1996 Worlds.
It was in an exhibition practice and Dick and Peggy were introducing the program.

Wow, never knew she landed triple axel. She wasn't the best jumper out there and I'm surprised she tried such a difficult jump. According to commentators she intended to land triple lutz-triple toe at Sparkassen Cup 2001 but didn't manage to throw another jump after lutz because of bad landing. Maybe she tried that at Trophee Lalique 2001 but I don't have the video.

robinhood
04-23-2011, 06:40 PM
Maria was not the greatest jumper in history, but her landing positions were defenitely a beauty!

You should make one with Joannie Rochette, she owns the 3toe/half loop/3sal combo

bartek
04-23-2011, 09:49 PM
Maria was not the greatest jumper in history, but her landing positions were defenitely a beauty!

You should make one with Joannie Rochette, she owns the 3toe/half loop/3sal combo

I will make it after I finish one with Tara Lipinski's combos ;). Btw, I wonder what is more difficult, 3toe/half loop/3sal or 3sal/3toe?

Aussie Willy
04-24-2011, 02:22 AM
I definately think the 3t-1/2lo-3s is probably more difficult. It is really difficult to maintain the flow and momentum after doing the 1/2lo. I noticed that she never really held the landing after the 3toe which didn't give a nice edge to the 1/2lo. I would be interested is seeing what Rochette did if you are going to make a clip of that.

museksk8r
04-24-2011, 02:54 AM
I definately think the 3t-1/2lo-3s is probably more difficult. It is really difficult to maintain the flow and momentum after doing the 1/2lo. I noticed that she never really held the landing after the 3toe which didn't give a nice edge to the 1/2lo. I would be interested is seeing what Rochette did if you are going to make a clip of that.

Joannie's best 3toe+1loop+3Salchow IMO was in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faY2G56ZF2E

It was also spectacular when she did it at the 2010 Japan Open earlier this season! I can't locate the video for that performance now though. :(

chmea
04-24-2011, 09:15 PM
Maria was not the greatest jumper in history, but her landing positions were defenitely a beauty!

You should make one with Joannie Rochette, she owns the 3toe/half loop/3sal combo

:rofl: oh my god, please, her landing was at the very best just OK. If your definition of beautiful landing is stiff landing and ugly position, then you would make a wonderful technical specialist for speady.

And what was that comment from her in the video?!!! She really thought that if she landed all her jumps, she would be unbeatable!! :rofl: Yeah right maria :rolleyes: Maybe if your "always" corrupted federation help you, but otherwise, absolutely NO. The key word was "If", which never or rarely happened cause she always choke like sacha cohen. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Macassar88
04-24-2011, 09:21 PM
I love her true triple lutz
And her Otonal program

duane
04-24-2011, 09:37 PM
I love her true triple lutz.
Here here (or is it Hear hear?)!! A thing of beauty when landed.

robinhood
04-25-2011, 12:01 AM
:rofl: oh my god, please, her landing was at the very best just OK. If your definition of beautiful landing is stiff landing and ugly position, then you would make a wonderful technical specialist for speady.

And what was that comment from her in the video?!!! She really thought that if she landed all her jumps, she would be unbeatable!! :rofl: Yeah right maria :rolleyes: Maybe if your "always" corrupted federation help you, but otherwise, absolutely NO. The key word was "If", which never or rarely happened cause she always choke like sacha cohen. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

wow! some venom inside there:rolleyes:

briancoogaert
04-25-2011, 08:06 AM
IMO, Surya Bonaly owns the 3Toe/half-loop/3Sal. But anyway, that was good from Maria to attempt it. Even if I've never liked her Salchow, forced with her arms.

I also think 3T/half-loop/3S is more difficult than 3S/3T. Because it's easier to rebond by using the speed of the 3S. But that's just my opinion since I will never attempt this combo !

MichaelK
04-25-2011, 09:00 AM
Commentators occasionally suggested that Maria would try a triple lutz - triple toe in the SP but I've never seen her attempt one. IMO, the 3toe 1/2 loop 3 salchow was a good choice for her as she often had trouble on the landings of her triples and even following with the double toe was not as easy. The extra half loop gave her a chance to obtain a good take-off edge for her salchow - and some of the sequences in the video are done very nicely! Thanks for compiling these videos!

briancoogaert
04-25-2011, 09:09 AM
Commentators occasionally suggested that Maria would try a triple lutz - triple toe in the SP but I've never seen her attempt one. IMO, the 3toe 1/2 loop 3 salchow was a good choice for her as she often had trouble on the landings of her triples and even following with the double toe was not as easy. The extra half loop gave her a chance to obtain a good take-off edge for her salchow - and some of the sequences in the video are done very nicely! Thanks for compiling these videos!
And I remember french commentators talking about her attempting 3Flip/3Toe and 3Axel at practices ! I've never seen that, and I don't know if that was true.

PashaFan
04-25-2011, 11:06 AM
Maria was always one of my fave's but SO many errors really cost her a lot of gold medals.
Check out her Euro 1998 freeskate & NHK Trophy 2000 freeskate. She was fantastic there.
And my fave women's short programme ever the 2000 World's in Nice.
A classic.