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SmallFairy
04-16-2011, 01:03 PM
....I'm actually in tears while writing this, because I've been watching Sasha Abt...and now I'm watching Yagudin!

Even though I've watched Sasha's program a zillion times, I had forgot how good his Rachmaninov is... The music suits him perfectly, it's building and lifting, and his flow and glide leaves me speachless. It's not flawless, like at Europeans, but he forgets about his mistakes and moves on, and ends the program wonderfully. wow...I am lost for words. The scratch spin in the end is so great! Some parts of the program is a little bit emtpy maybe, but I don't mind one bit lol

And Yagudin... the look in his eyes when he starts his program- his fiercness, his emotions, his presence...
I agree he played it a little safe if you look at the jumping content, but there's nothing watered down or holding back about the program, he goes for absolutely every element 110%. his 3a is SO HUGE and clean, his quads are perfect, with so much speed, his flying sit is brilliant, and he's so into the performance it's incredible! that's all the reasons he's my all time favourite.

I love how he's kissing the ice, I love how he's kneeling to Tarasova, I love how she's jumping and skating with him by the boards all the way through his program, and I love his joy in the k&c.

sigh....

My favourite fs quote ever, by TAT:
- I'm so happy about Alexei, because he's great, he's great natural talent, and he win today, and he's real olympic champion, and he skate well, he..he very artistically, and he loves public, and public loves him, it's wonderful, today is great day for figure skating!!

How can I write anything more. Will do later, when I catch my breath again!

Goeble was awsome, I have to say it, even though a little stiff, his quads so clean, such a strong guy! his 3a from a spread eagle, his 3l from hydroblading, 4.20 somthing into the program...wow!

and Honda...the best Aranjuez ever! wish he could have had a medal too!

Plushy's choreography I don't like, but his presence and command of the ice is marvelous, and the jumps-wow again! his 3a-3f is one of a kind!

...now the Russian national anthem is playing on my good ol' vcr! Alexei is smiling! what a guy!!

SmallFairy
04-16-2011, 01:12 PM
Alexei Yagudin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVYs2M_rIm0

Evgeni Plushenko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC48Tblt2nY

Timothy Goebel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQXiiknXAH8

Takeshi Honda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB1AjoD1oMw

Alexander Abt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BjxT5kjuQ0

Stephane Lambiel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvU_Y3uOIh8

Brian Joubert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzhmwrwb6e0

Todd Eldredge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NWQmpaw6TU

Elvis Stojko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9iKCS5nRpQ

Michael Weiss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGyqvRR8qJI

a more obscure guy I lhave a soft spot for:
Roman Skorniakov UZB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdCet-f2rKY

he actually skated quite well:)

museksk8r
04-16-2011, 02:00 PM
Alexei Yagudin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVYs2M_rIm0

Timothy Goebel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQXiiknXAH8

Alexander Abt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BjxT5kjuQ0


Ugh! Hamilton's commentary is so obnoxious and ludicrous. Every time these videos resurface, so does my anger over the commentary. "5.5, 5.6, 5.7 (said with emphasis as if he were reading 5.9s and 5.8s) are high for what he did" about Sasha's LP. Give me a fracking break! You'd think by his commentary that Abt wiped the ice, but he only fell once on what was to have been a 4toe+3toe combination, and the turn-out on the 3Lutz was a minor error. He also shows far too much glee and national bias for Abt's misfortunes that result in a medal for Goebel, and continues to go on and on about it through the entire video. YUCK! :scream:

I think the only result that would have made Scott completely satisfied would have been for Tim to have won the gold medal since in Hamilton's asinine mind, he even out-skated the great Yagudin. :rolleyes::yikes::shuffle:

kittyjake5
04-16-2011, 03:56 PM
Revisiting the men's long programs at SLC brought back great memories, just fabulous! Thank you!

SmallFairy
04-16-2011, 04:07 PM
Ugh! Hamilton's commentary is so obnoxious and ludicrous. Every time these videos resurface, so does my anger over the commentary. "5.5, 5.6, 5.7 (said with emphasis as if he were reading 5.9s and 5.8s) are high for what he did" about Sasha's LP. Give me a fracking break! You'd think by his commentary that Abt wiped the ice, but he only fell once on what was to have been a 4toe+3toe combination, and the turn-out on the 3Lutz was a minor error. He also shows far too much glee and national bias for Abt's misfortunes that result in a medal for Goebel, and continues to go on and on about it through the entire video. YUCK! :scream:

I think the only result that would have made Scott completely satisfied would have been for Tim to have won the gold medal since in Hamilton's asinine mind, he even out-skated the great Yagudin. :rolleyes::yikes::shuffle:

ITA!! his commentary is so totally horrid, I wish there was other videos available.... as I said in another thread; bad commentary can really ruin a great moment!
I have SVT commentary on my tapes, they are great, thankfully!

btw, I really want to mention Kevin van der Perren, who skated without mistakes, both in the short and the long program! what a wonderful experience for him! as been said earlier, this competitioned oozed of quality!

blue_idealist
04-17-2011, 05:25 AM
Seeing this Plushenko program makes me dislike him a little less. In 2006, even though he won gold, and especially now/2010, he's a shadow of his former self. He actually showed some expression in his LP in 2002. :P The only thing I didn't like is that his jumps were kind of telegraphed a lot, more so than Yagudin anyway.

I think Yagudin was deserving of the OGM overall, even though he was a little slow in parts (one of the footwork sequences, mainly, I have seen him faster).

I didn't re-watch Elvis this time but I've seen this program quite a few times and it's always heartbreaking to watch. I think he was undermarked a bit in both the SP and the LP at this Olympics, not to say that he deserved a medal but maybe should have been moved up a couple of spots.

Marco
04-17-2011, 05:41 AM
The LP portion was very anti-climatic after such a strong SP competition. In particular, Honda failing to deliver while he had such strong programs that season was heart-breaking. And if Abt had skated like he did at Euros, he really would deserve the bronze, if not the silver.

Zokko!
04-17-2011, 11:44 AM
Thank you so much (again!) for all these sweet memories, SmallFairy! :respec: Also thanks for taking the Japanese coverage in Yagudin's case, I guess we all know why! :lol:


And Yagudin... the look in his eyes when he starts his program- his fiercness, his emotions, his presence...Yeah, he looked like he was going to pilot the Concorde at that particular moment; but later, in the KnC, before his marks came up, he looked like an almost anxious little boy, waiting for Santa Claus to come! :swoon:

blue_idealist
04-17-2011, 02:46 PM
Yagudin was so emotional about skating.. it's sort of cute in a way.. better than Plushenko's cold arrogance

let`s talk
04-17-2011, 03:49 PM
.. better than Plushenko's cold arrogancePlush is everywhere. In all threads.

You go, old boy! :plush:

SmallFairy
04-17-2011, 04:28 PM
Plush is everywhere. In all threads.

You go, old boy! :plush:

well, it's not so strange he's in this thread, is it...? :shuffle:

misskarne
04-17-2011, 04:34 PM
Yagudin was so emotional about skating.. it's sort of cute in a way.. better than Plushenko's cold arrogance

*yawn* It's getting old. Methinks some people doth protest too much. Plushy obviously has a lot of closet fans.


Has it occurred to you that Plushenko and Yagudin just express their emotions differently? Yags wore his skating heart on his sleeve. There's nothing wrong with that. Plushy kept his skating heart close to his chest. There's nothing wrong with that, either. Yags' emotion and passion is very obvious. Plushenko's is more subtle. He shows passion and emotion by the intensity of his skating. His SLC LP is a great example of that - fearlessness, desperation, DETERMINATION. He knew he had nothing to lose and went full throttle. Did it work? No. Was it great to watch? HELL YES.



I feel absolutely distraught for Sasha here. He was such a beautiful elegant skater and I really think he should have medalled here. His LP wasn't even that much of a disaster really. Unfortunately, I don't think the ISU/judges could handle the thought of a Russian 1-2-3 on American soil...

Coco
04-17-2011, 05:39 PM
I think the 6.0s for Alexei in the LP were as much for the SP as anything else :)

Zokko!
04-17-2011, 06:14 PM
Plush is everywhere. In all threads.

You go, old boy! :plush:
Well, since this thread is about SLC Olympic Men's LP it's not that surprising that his name has been mentioned, although not on 1st place ... :P At least I'm glad you're so easy to please! :D

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Apart from that, and looking at it from today's perspective:Wouldn't it have been great, if both, Yagudin & Plushenko, would've gone in the LP head to head? What a monster of competition that would've been! Although the thrill would've probably killed me. :watch:

Otoh I've no doubt Yags would've made in anyway! :encore:

DickButtonFan
04-17-2011, 06:49 PM
Plush doubled the 3s and stepped out of his 4-3-3, so he definitely deserved 2nd and not 1st.