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Vagabond
04-06-2011, 05:14 PM
As for the Team event, yes, a few countries will dominate at first. But I have a hard time beleiving that countries that are lacking in just one of the 4 disciplines wouldn't scurry to build those programs, which would ultimately help skating in general.

I'm sure similar arguments were made when baseball and softball were introduced as Olympic sports. It didn't happen, and those sports are no longer included in the Olympics.

And it's not as if there are many countries that are really "lacking in just one of the 4 disciplines." For example, although Finland sent entries to Europeans in three discipline, its male singles skater and its dance couple didn't make it out of the Preliminaries. In fact, they weren't even close to qualifying for the Short Program.

mia joy
04-06-2011, 05:16 PM
I must say I'm a little bit torn.

I agree that the only countries fighting here will be Russia, USA and Canada, which makes it a totally weak idea. On the other hand, I also agree with the statement that figure skaters deserve more Olympic medal chances than just one, like athletes in so many other disciplines. And of course, it would be great to have even more FS during Olympics for me as a fan!

But then I have to say I feel really bad for the poor synchro skaters - why not giving them a chance to live their Olympic dream? I'm sure audiences all over the world (not necessarily FS fans - I for one do not like SS very much) could really like a spectacular sport like this.

Duh, I really don't know what to think about this...

SmallFairy
04-06-2011, 05:19 PM
so the idea is that one/two athletes competes pr country from each disclipine, and then the scores are put together?

l'etoile
04-06-2011, 05:19 PM
But then I have to say I feel really bad for the poor synchro skaters - why not giving them a chance to live their Olympic dream? I'm sure audiences all over the world (not necessarily FS fans - I for one do not like SS very much) could really like a spectacular sport like this.

Duh, I really don't know what to think about this...

totally agree with you.

DinDonShamu
04-06-2011, 05:26 PM
I'd rather see extreme jumps/spins/footworks/etc events as proposed by gkelly(?) in the other thread added to the Olympics :shuffle: There are so few countries that are reasonably strong across all four disciplines that they really should just mail the medals now and be done with it.

BigB08822
04-06-2011, 05:30 PM
I have always been a huge fan of this idea, I have even asked for it years ago! I see no reason why this is a bad idea. If you don't think these athletes are capable of skating an extra performance then that is just silly. They skate run-throughs every day and are able to get up and walk the next day and do it all over again. These are athletes, not porcelain dolls.

genevieve
04-06-2011, 05:30 PM
^ I'm with ssmith17. I love the idea. If they can structure it similarly to gymnastics, where there are some strong individuals, say, on the Greek team, but they are not strong enough to do all-around. It gives more opportunities for specialists.
Isn't that what the individual competition already provides? Specialists (i.e. singles vs pairs/dance)? Unless as someone said they break the competition down to just spinning, certain jumps, some kind of "freestyle" moves, etc - which I sincerely hope isn't the case.

I'm not excited about this in the least.

GarrAarghHrumph
04-06-2011, 05:43 PM
There should be jumping and spinning for individual events, and synchro for the team event. The team event doesn't make as much sense. Anybody know why they won't allow "additional athletes"?

Money and facilities and gender balance. I mean, my goodness, for synchro, they'd need to add significant numbers of dorm rooms, they'd probably need to add a separate ice facility or two, and it'd skew female. They are actually trying to shrink the Olympics in terms of participant numbers, not add significant numbers of athletes.

julieann
04-06-2011, 05:50 PM
If this will encourage countries to build strong programs in all disciplines I think it is positive for the growth of the sport.

Figure skating is one of the sports where the athletes compete very little compared to other sports and the athletes only have one shot at a medal in each championship. I think it is great they will get one more opportunity to take a medal home for their country.

I agree, some countries are so focused on one discipline that athletes who want to do another discipline are forced to go to another country. Maybe now they will focus on growing all 4 disciplines within their own country or they can't participate.


I agree that the only countries fighting here will be Russia, USA and Canada, which makes it a totally weak idea. On the other hand, I also agree with the statement that figure skaters deserve more Olympic medal chances than just one, like athletes in so many other disciplines. And of course, it would be great to have even more FS during Olympics for me as a fan!

But then I have to say I feel really bad for the poor synchro skaters - why not giving them a chance to live their Olympic dream? I'm sure audiences all over the world (not necessarily FS fans - I for one do not like SS very much) could really like a spectacular sport like this.

Duh, I really don't know what to think about this...

But you see some countries dominate in other sports as well, that just happens. As far as letting syncro in, that would be cool but as of right now it seems to be a money issue with so many athletes they would have to add.


I have always been a huge fan of this idea, I have even asked for it years ago! I see no reason why this is a bad idea. If you don't think these athletes are capable of skating an extra performance then that is just silly. They skate run-throughs every day and are able to get up and walk the next day and do it all over again. These are athletes, not porcelain dolls.

I agree, what are we talking skating an extra 7 minutes? :lol:

caseyedwards
04-06-2011, 05:51 PM
I like more medal possibilies for skaters!

overedge
04-06-2011, 05:51 PM
I'm not impressed that apparently the IOC has decided to include a team skating event without any indications of how it would be structured/scored. Unless I am missing something.

alilou
04-06-2011, 05:55 PM
I'm sure I read somewhere over the past few months Cinquanta saying the team event would come before the individual events.

Adding Synchro would mean about 200 more athletes (ten teams? of 20) plus all their backup people (coaches etc). It's not gonna happen.

elanor
04-06-2011, 05:56 PM
I think this is awesome. At last figure skaters will have the chance to compete for more than 1 event. I always thought it unfair how gymnasts could win 4,5, or even 6 medals, while figure skaters could only compete for 1!!

Can you imagine if there had been a team event in Vancouver and Brian Joubert had a chance to redeem himself after his disaster in the single event? Mao rematch with Kim? THe Germans getting another shot at the Chinese pairs?

The potential for this could be great for figure skating.

This would be very unfair when only some skaters get the opportunity while the others don't because they have no team with medal chances. The sport should be about fairness (naive, I know). Some will have multiple Olympic medals just because they happen to be Russian or Canadian. It would make me even more sad for good skaters who will never win the Olympic medal. The idea is nationalistic to the core and I hate it.

It would be a little bit better if not the same skaters can do both events.

Figure skating is an individualistic sport, not team sport. Getting medal with easy program or splatting all over the place because someone else landed many jumps or is a great ice dancer makes no sense to me.

I would love synchro competition but, well, it's not going to happen.

julieann
04-06-2011, 06:00 PM
Figure skating is an individualistic sport, not team sport. Getting medal with easy program or splatting all over the place because someone else landed many jumps or is a great ice dancer makes no sense to me.

Individuals? So should we get rid of pairs and ice dancing as well?

I hate comparing gymnastics with skating but there is nothing wrong with individuals pooling their efforts for a team score. Many other sports do it. Did you see the WTT?

JerseySlore
04-06-2011, 06:00 PM
Oh goodie, now there's a chance Reynolds or Leonova will have OGM under their belts. :scream: