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kwanfan1818
04-02-2011, 10:46 PM
@kwanfan1818, thanks for posting the links to my vids. Regarding a written biography of John, there is an excellent picture book by Keith Money that can often be found on ebay or amazon. Another biography called Black Ice was written after John's death by his former manager Elva Oglanby but John's family took out an injunction and it was withdrawn from sale. I have a copy and they do appear from time to time but often sell for over $100. It's rather tastelessly written and focuses waaay too much on his private life, plus none of it is corroborated or properly referenced. Hopefully someday, someone will write a definitive biography. It's an idea I have toyed with myself actually! :D
Thank you for making them available! And thank you for the book recommendation -- I know Keith Money from his books on ballet and from his participation in the documentary "Margot" -- I just ordered it from amazon.com. Oglanby's book is available for over $100 now, and I think I'll pass. I'd rather read your book (candle lit that you'll write it).

Vash01
04-03-2011, 02:10 AM
I may have misinterpreted the intent of this thread. I don't have any links to post. I could do that of course, but it takes too much time and work :lol:

Thanks to all who posted the links. Quite frankly, I found it impossible to come up with just 3 great performances from the Olympics (although I posted 3 or 4 in a previous post). There are too many disciplines, SP & LP, and too many great performances. I am just going to enjoy them all.

kwanfan1818
04-03-2011, 02:57 AM
eedy. Also, free skates were longer then so you had to pace yourself a bit. Still, I found this performance to be absolutely sublime; he hit the difficult triples of that era, spun in both directions, had wonderful and musical transitions and deployed field moves. Also his back, body line, extension and musical interpretation were all pretty much flawless. That might not bring you out of your seat, but it does for me.
Curry had three triples, through 3Lo, all of them beautiful. He also did his second 2A just before the 5-minute mark. The only jump with a simple entrance, telegraphed, was the 2Lz. He not only spun in both directions more than once, he changed directions multiple times in the program. There were slow parts musically, but there was not a break. He had turns and footwork throughout. He had a wide variety of spin positions and multiple moves in the field. He had transitions, transitions, transitions.

While he might not have been the fastest across the ice in the FS, the fast music from "Don Quixote" pas de deux he used is quite quick, and he kept up with quick steps and turns.

If you fast forward four years later, Robin Cousins attempted four triples, but didn't land the 3Lo properly; I'm not sure if the last two triples would be called a sequence. He also had three huge 2A's and a beautiful 1A, did one set of spins in opposite directions, and he milked his beautiful camel/spiral position for all it was worth :)

There wasn't that much of a gap between the two, with Curry landing the most difficult jump perfectly and having difficult entrances into most of his others, and Cousins attempting one more triple and landing one more 2A. It's not as if Curry were a technical laggard in the historical scheme of things. The big jump came between 1976 and 1984, with Orser's winning FS including five triples through 3A -- he doubled the Salchow towards the end, and he didn't do 3Lo -- and one 3/2 combination, and then again in 1988, where Boitano added 3A combo, Tano 3Lz, and a 3/3 among his jumps.

judgejudy27
04-05-2011, 02:48 PM
For me:

Ladies- Kim in 2010. This one was easy for me. Kim is a much stronger jumper and artist both than Lipinski, so with both skating their best it is really no contest. And Tara and Michelle in 1998 had previously been the best performances in Olympic skating history.

Men- Curry in 1976. I pick this narrowly over Yagudin in 2002.

Pairs- Gordeeva & Grinkov in 1988, with M&D in 94 a close second. I would have picked M&D in 92 or G&G in 94 had either gone clean.

Dance- Klimova & Ponamarenko in 1992 with T&D in 84 a close second. I know T&D in 84 were probably the greatest, but just personal preference.

kia_4EverOnIce
04-05-2011, 09:34 PM
For me:

Ladies - Yu Na Kim LP 2010

Men - Yagudin LP 2002 (that made me a fan of figure skating, before it was a sport among others I loved :) ), 2nd emotionally Plushenko SP 2006 :D (I owe this to my room-mates in college, I got crazy whole week! :) )

Pairs - Gordeeva&Grinkov 1988, and emotionally Shen&Zhao 2010 SP (dreams come true :) )and also Pang&Tong LP

Dance - Torvill&Dean 84

Vash01
04-06-2011, 10:37 PM
To John Curry's 1976 Free Skate, I would add:

Berezhnaia/Sikharulidze 2002 Olympics SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB2lyUWrEcE)

The greatest FS IMO was Gordeeva/Grinkov's 1988 Olympics FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B0tSnQKzwo), but of all Olympics pairs programs, I think B/S's SP is the most exquisite.

Torvill and Dean's Bolero (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXTBiKwmgc) was extraordinary, but I think their greater performance was their Paso Doble OSP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imYwy_UOluU), where they kept up intensity and precision for the pattern and two repeats.

ITA about B&S's SP at the 2002 Olympics. It was sublime, and I was lucky enough to see it live, in the arena.

julieann
04-07-2011, 12:09 AM
I'm really surprised youtube had not pulled those Vancouver videos they seem to have pulled every thing else Olympic related...within minutes.

jatale
04-07-2011, 10:42 PM
NBC successfully blocked all Youtube videos of their 2010 Olympic coverage for more than a year. Not only did NBC provide terrible coverage (ABC was MUCH better during the years it did the broadcasts) but they then tried to force everyone to visit their web site to view videos too. I think now that the 2010 NBC olympic web site is no longer showing those videos, I guess they don't care anymore.

4/8 - Well I may have to take back what I said earlier in this post. I checked again today and the Olympic vids that were there for awhile last month seem to have vanished. Very upsetting.

julieann
04-08-2011, 12:42 AM
NBC successfully blocked all Youtube videos of their 2010 Olympic coverage for more than a year. Not only did NBC provide terrible coverage (ABC was MUCH better during the years it did the broadcasts) but they then tried to force everyone to visit their web site to view videos too. I think now that the 2010 NBC olympic web site is no longer showing those videos, I guess they don't care anymore.

I'm glad they are allowing them on. I paid for the whole competition through Amazon Video and one day it was gone. I would love to see some again.

danceronice
04-08-2011, 01:40 AM
Men's: Alexei Yagudin, 2002. Far and away.

Ladies: Uh...I'm not really sure. It's my least-favorite anyway. Yuna was technically brilliant and very pretty in her LP, though I liked her SP better.

Pairs: S/Z in 2010 for pure OVERDUE. Not as good as Turnadot at Worlds.

Dance: T/D's 1994 Rhumba. Closest thing ever to truly DANCING on ice.

dinakt
04-08-2011, 02:21 AM
There are many great performances. The ones which are particularly emotional for me are the ones I saw in real time ( not live-I have never been to Olympics- but at least as they were happening). Thus, Yagudin's 2002 SLC victory has never been topped in my world. I was an emotional mess, out of happiness and excitement and nerves. I love and admire John Curry, and watched his Olympic LP many times, but I don't feel the same emotional charge as I feel thinking of Yagudin, because I did not live it.

I am not an ardent Yu-Na fan, but I admit that her victory was on par with Yagudin's- a rare, perfect Olympic moment when an athlete delivers 200%.

Dance- Klimova/ Ponomarenko 1992. That's the occasion when I agree nationality plays a part. I understand the greatness of Torville/ Dean, but I grew up watching Russian dance teams, so K/P exemplified perfect style for me; I prefer Bach to Bolero anyway.

Pairs... I dunno. Quite a few outstanding performances. But I am hoping for that "perfect moment" delivery from V/T in Sochi:)

misskarne
04-08-2011, 03:49 PM
I have to say, I'm going to go a slightly different direction with the men's...

Yagudin's SP/LP in SLC were great, sure, but my favourite Olympic performance was Ilia Kulik's SHORT program in Nagano. I was a big fan of Revolutions! It was also the program that put him in the perfect place to launch his LP from.

I was a big fan of the wings... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52JmYr8tmOE)


I'm also going to give an honourable mention to Plushenko's SLC LP. I just think it was one of the ultimate examples of not holding back - he just flung himself full-throttle into that program and gave it everything he had. He knew he had nothing to lose and went hard. It didn't come off, but he sure didn't die with petrol in the tank!

(Also, triple axel-half loop-triple flip. HELL YEAH!)

From toreador and matador to flirty gypsy girl and back again... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhIiisXRBys)

let`s talk
04-08-2011, 04:44 PM
I'm also going to give an honourable mention to Plushenko's SLC LP. I just think it was one of the ultimate examples of not holding back - he just flung himself full-throttle into that program and gave it everything he had. He knew he had nothing to lose and went hard. It didn't come off, but he sure didn't die with petrol in the tank!

(Also, triple axel-half loop-triple flip. HELL YEAH!)

From toreador and matador to flirty gypsy girl and back again... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhIiisXRBys)

:kickass: Thanks for the reminder! He looks so fresh, young, juicy, yeah!!! :encore::plush:

kia_4EverOnIce
04-09-2011, 11:09 AM
Pairs: S/Z in 2010 for pure OVERDUE. Not as good as Turnadot at Worlds.

turandot it's my best pairs program ever, I love it!


I'm also going to give an honourable mention to Plushenko's SLC LP.
(Also, triple axel-half loop-triple flip. HELL YEAH!)

From toreador and matador to flirty gypsy girl and back again... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhIiisXRBys)

both Plushenko and Yagudin were amazing! I love more Yagudin, because it caught me more emotionally, but also Evgeni was great (I'm somehow an uber of both of them)!

Extranjera
04-09-2011, 11:34 AM
I know Mirai didn't win any medal but I think her FS from Vancouver was one of the best in the olympics ;) Ladies competition was very strong and all: Yuna's FS, Mao's SP & Mirai's FS simply delighted me.

Before Vancouver I would say that The Greatest olympics performances were:

Yagudin's "Overcome"
Baiul's "Swan Lake" (ex)
Kwan's "Lyra Anglica"
"Bolero" by Torvill & Dean

I know it's more than 3 but there are so many great programs... :)