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RD
03-26-2011, 06:14 PM
Yes, JKirk brought up an excellent point about the shady timing of Cohen's WD from the GP. It WAS odd, after all, because Cohen was apparently well enough to skate in that show earlier in the week...if she didn't want people to question her motives, she should have pulled out of the show as well. And FTR, Jenny was NOT the only one that thought that. I recall many discussions here (and at GS) where several posters speculated similarly. I was one of them.

I never saw Hersh as truly neutral re. Cohen, and I think it was more a matter of rushing to her defense than actually intending to put down Kirk. You see it here all the time, with skaters' fans bordering on insulting posters that say not-so-flattering things about their fave. Same thing happened here IMHO.

Having said all that- part of writing publicly like that is being able to take criticism, which many times can be quite harsh.

millipied
03-26-2011, 06:17 PM
Back to main topic.
Some interesting russian Sunday papers tidbits about Worlds in Moscow.

" Megasport can sit up toi 13,500 people. However there will be only 8,000-10,000 seats available. Hope for at least 5,000 tourists to arrive, the rest will be local spectators. About 90,000 total tickets will be issued. Not sure if they all can be sold. Only the final competitions have chance to be sold out. The ticket price will be set according to European standards. Probabaly similar pricing as in last year's Turin. From 10 EUR for earlier sessions to 120 EUR for evening sessions.
Large chunk of tickets will be sold to local schools, charities and youth organizations."
http://www.bfm.ru/articles/2011/03/26/moskvu-zhdet-lednikovyj-period.html#text

Dragonlady
03-26-2011, 06:44 PM
A large block of tickets for Worlds are reserved for the ISU, the member federations and the sponsors.

millipied
03-26-2011, 07:16 PM
Putin visited Moskvina camp today. He watched the training and spoke to athletes, xpressed his condolences to Yuko in light of Japanese situation.
http://sport.rian.ru/sport/20110326/358115888.html

julieann
03-27-2011, 02:17 AM
http://sport.rian.ru/sport/20110326/358115888.html

Video of Moskvina and Putin (http://www.1tv.ru/news/sport/173464)

Theatregirl1122
03-27-2011, 02:42 AM
Everyone knows she should quit and go to college because her programs are largely unwatchable.

ALMOST everyone knows that EVERYONE does not hold any one opinion. Some people have a hard time understanding that, though.

caseyedwards
03-27-2011, 02:50 AM
Good video! Did not expect to see Gachinski there. Then after I saw him I was wondering if Liza would be there!

victoriaheidi
03-27-2011, 06:31 AM
ALMOST everyone knows that EVERYONE does not hold any one opinion. Some people have a hard time understanding that, though.

Agreed. I see no reason for Rachael to retire unless she wants to. Same goes for Fumie, Alexe, or any of the many other skaters whose retirements people talk about around here. :)

Artifice
03-27-2011, 10:07 AM
No one except the skater or the coach has the right to say or advise the skater to leave or stay. Especially when the skater keeps training while someone is writing his "advises" the butt comfortably sat on a sofa.

I have a lot of admiration for people who have the guts to get in front of everyone and try to perform whatever it is. It takes courage and passion because one gets exposed to other's judgements. So, those who just stay behind, carefully hidden from other's eyes, critisizing and giving judgements, are just less interesting.

Fashionista
03-27-2011, 10:41 AM
Looks like Russia is collecting force major competitions:lol: Pentathlon world championship will take place in September in Moscow instead of Cairo. Earlier it was decided to move saber world cup from Tunisia to Moscow.

skatepixie
03-27-2011, 10:47 AM
A large block of tickets for Worlds are reserved for the ISU, the member federations and the sponsors.

The ISU section for 2009 Worlds seemed HUGE in person.

There is also an open spot right behind the camera, because people sitting there would be blocked.

berthesghost
03-27-2011, 02:03 PM
No one except the skater or the coach has the right to say or advise the skater to leave or stay. Especially when the skater keeps training while someone is writing his "advises" the butt comfortably sat on a sofa.ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

I pretty much never ever agree with anything Phil says, but I will defend until death his right to say whatever the hell he wants!

As for the sofa :blah: .... I suggest you look "critic" and "reporter" up in the dictionary.

Iceman
03-27-2011, 09:22 PM
I advised Caroline Zhang to leave. Of course, she interpreted that to mean leave her coach.:rollin::rollin:

Dragonlady
03-28-2011, 01:50 AM
No one except the skater or the coach has the right to say or advise the skater to leave or stay. Especially when the skater keeps training while someone is writing his "advises" the butt comfortably sat on a sofa.

I happen to think that sports writers should tell an athlete when it's time to go when said athlete stays too long. They certainly do it to athletes in other sports and often they're right.

It's sad to see former greats hanging on, their skills declining, and their results sliding downward. I'm thinking Elvis Stojko at the end - a shadow of what he had once been. Fumie is well along that road right now - 30, her skills declining, along with her scores and her results and still she hangs on.

However, for skaters like Caroline Zhang and Rachael Flatt, who aren't even 20 yet, it's ridiculous to say they should just give it up. I remember some people saying the same thing about Sarah Hughes in 2000, because she wasn't as balletic as Sasha and Naomi Nari Nam who would be going to the Olympics while Sarah stayed home. Look how that turned out

We complain that sports writers don't treat figure skating like a sport, but when they do, we complain that it's none of their business. You can't have it both ways.

RD
03-28-2011, 01:56 AM
^ Good point.

Same with ripping a skater apart if he/she happens to do badly. It's done in other sports all the time. Yet, when it's done to a figure skater, the community goes berserk. Pick one?

ETA: I remember- this happened around 2002 with Kwan- her fans made a big to-do about it...and then Phil Hersh with Meissner in 2008, where people nearly literally blew a gasket. (Then he did some follow up asking if her fans were tough enough, lol)