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pani
03-23-2011, 12:22 PM
Surely it's up to the ISU, and not Skate Canada to make that decision. Obviously it would be wonderful to Japan to be able to have Worlds next year, but it wouldn't be fair if as a consequence France lost out on their chance to host. Moving everything back a year would make the most sense in my opinion.

The most sense - to give Japan 2014 WCh

a56
03-23-2011, 12:25 PM
What happened with Worlds in 2000? :confused:
I know they were first assigned to Australia and then relocated in Nice, but never knew the reason of it
ISU switched because of problems with broadcasting rights (http://nytimes.com/2000/03/28/sports/28iht-skate.2.t.html).

Australian television networks are much more interested in acquiring rights to cricket, tennis and rugby league than figure skating. The ISU said it was unable to agree to suitable technical and financial terms with TV companies in Australia to act as host broadcasters. Ottavio Cinquanta, the ISU president, has said the Australian organizers did not respect their commitments with regard to television contracts.



It seems now that Cinquanta suggests that the 2012 Worlds would be moved from France to Japan... Gailhaguet says that they gave great symphaty for the Japanese Federation and trust the ISU to make the right decisions. What a domino this will finally be, wow!
I wouldn't be surprised if this happened. Didier is still at it in his quest for 2013 worlds. :P If the ISU is so eager to give Japan worlds, give them 2014. Don't rearrange all the previously allotted venues. :rolleyes:


[snip] so it definitely seems a snide suggestion on Didier's part to get the 2013 worlds for himself, while sticking a shiv in an old rival. If he really wants to be altruistic, he can give up 2012 and take the next avaliable one, in 2014. Wanna wager on the likelihood of that?
That's exactly what Didier should do if he's so eager to give Japan 2012 worlds. If the ISU were to suggest that, Didier would withdraw his original "solution" so fast. ;)


And given that the ISU had to wait for Japan to give up the 2011 worlds before soliciting bids to hold another one, what makes you think that the ISU would override Canada in these circumstances? SC would take the ISU to the Court of Abritration for sports so quickly it would make your head spin.
SC would be very upset if Didier's "empathetic" suggestion was followed (I would personally be very upset if Canada was pushed to 2014 worlds instead of 2013).

IDC a.k.a. Ritti
03-23-2011, 12:27 PM
I guess noone has posted a link to this article yet:
http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Finland+considers+applying+to+host+this+spring%E2% 80%99s+World+Figure+Skating+Championships/1135264815751

This interview was done *before* Finland named Turku as the candidate. Susanna Rahkamo has also hinted in other interviews that the idea of Finland hosting Worlds originated from "outside the Finnish Figure Skating Association". :slinkaway:

Spartacus
03-23-2011, 12:43 PM
Don't know when, but definitely in Russia.

icemusings
03-23-2011, 01:00 PM
The French Press Release also indicates that the suggestion came from the French Federation and they don't ask for a replacement date for their worlds and instead just say that they are certain that the ISU will find the best solution for 2011 and the years that follow.

Considering though that the French have already publicly tried to grab 2013, I don't think anyone won't see through this.

Sylvia
03-23-2011, 01:04 PM
What happened with Worlds in 2000? :confused:
I know they were first assigned to Australia and then relocated in Nice, but never knew the reason of it
I posted this article link in one of the earlier threads: http://www.cbssports.com/u/ce/multi/0,1329,1302422_7,00.html

morqet
03-23-2011, 01:07 PM
The Canadian fans don't want to give up the "best" Worlds in the Olympic cycle, the Europeans fans wouldn't want to be stuck with the "worst" for 2 cycles in a row. The best solution is to give Japan 2014, but if they do decide to give Japan 2012, I would rather see France and Canada stay in that order, but be moved back by a year each, rather than Fracne getting 2014 as prize for giving up 2012. Maybe I just think about what I can watch, but North America fans have got much better deal with hosting worlds than anyone else recently!

Judy
03-23-2011, 01:15 PM
Surely it's up to the ISU, and not Skate Canada to make that decision. Obviously it would be wonderful to Japan to be able to have Worlds next year, but it wouldn't be fair if as a consequence France lost out on their chance to host. Moving everything back a year would make the most sense in my opinion.

Considering that the nuclear situation possibly will take a long time to recover I can't see Japan. I think the next opportunity should be after the next Olympics.

HisWeirness
03-23-2011, 01:23 PM
Well, now that it is AM in North America and PM in Europe, our daily Worlds status updates from Mr. Hersh are up and running ;):

@olyphil (http://twitter.com/#!/olyphil)

It's 2:42 pm in Switzerland, but ballots not yet out to ISU Council members for vote on world figs sub host.
http://twitter.com/olyphil/status/50548250129874944

maija
03-23-2011, 01:25 PM
The Arena in Turku, Finland (http://www.hkareena.fi/en/index.php)

highrisegiraffe
03-23-2011, 01:29 PM
Does anyone know the proposed dates for the US (Colorado Springs) bid?

Celine82
03-23-2011, 01:30 PM
Phil's clock must be wrong, Swiss time on a Swiss watch says 2:32pm right now. ;)

I hope the Council won't need more than one round so that the skaters finally know when they'll be competing and can adjust their practice schedules accordingly.

Frau Muller
03-23-2011, 02:21 PM
olyphil Philip Hersh
It's 2:42 pm in Switzerland, but ballots not yet out to ISU Council members for vote on world figs sub host.

I wonder if the ISU will blow smoke after each vote? White smoke = "Habemus Worldsa"!

Similar to this: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/pope-black-or-white-smoke_b4996

a56
03-23-2011, 02:29 PM
I wonder if the ISU will blow smoke after each vote? White smoke = "Habemus Worldsa"!
Yes, in the chimney at their headquarters at Lausanne, and a simultaneous live video cam of said chimney at www.isu.org. Round 1. No winner. Black smoke. Nicht Habemus Worldus. Round 2. White smoke. Habemus Worldus in Moscowus.

professordeb
03-23-2011, 02:30 PM
Can I just say that ...
- I'm pleased as punch that Worlds are going to be held somewhere and that the skaters will get the opportunity to finish up this season AND get a break before the next one
-I'm thrilled with all the countries who have stepped up and offered their hosting services
IF any "funny stuff" happens, then we deal with it AFTER it happens and stop speculating on the possibility that it MIGHT take place
-Hoping that Japan gets to host the 2014 but should France want to give up their, that France can then have 2014 (yeah, I'm really biased on Canada not giving up 2013 only because I'm starting now to save up to go since I only live an hour away from London, Ontario)
-I'm very thankful for all who have contributed to keep the rest of us in the loop as to what has transpired and what it could mean for the future.

FSU just totally ROCKS my universe.