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overedge
03-21-2011, 08:50 PM
He is how everyone individually sees him based on the fact people perceive him according to who they are and how they view the world.

How is this different from how anyone else on Planet Earth is perceived?

REO
03-22-2011, 03:27 AM
It's not. It's just that some people harbor what others believe are misperceptions. Also Average Joe Blow does not have websites devoted to other people's perceptions regarding him, good or bad, most of which are pure conjecture. Ah the price of fame.

zaphyre14
03-22-2011, 11:52 AM
those who know him likely do realize that he is unpretentious, fairly grounded, down-to-earth, often sweet, funny, and very kind to everyone who sees beyond his playful, so-called diva-ish image..

Again, I dispute this generalization. The people I know who do know Johnny (some quite intimately) don't call him unpretentious (quite the opposite!) or down-to-earth. Kind is also debatable. Funny, maybe. But definitely Diva with a capital D. And that's something several of them are not particularly happy about.

On a personal basis, I have to say that my few, brief encounters with him have upheld the Diva stereotype entirely. And not a particularly original or unique version of it, either. But I can't see into the man's soul, as some posters apparently can so what do I know? *shrug*

aftershocks
03-23-2011, 09:54 AM
Again, I dispute this generalization. The people I know who do know Johnny (some quite intimately) don't call him unpretentious (quite the opposite!) or down-to-earth. Kind is also debatable. Funny, maybe. But definitely Diva with a capital D. And that's something several of them are not particularly happy about.

On a personal basis, I have to say that my few, brief encounters with him have upheld the Diva stereotype entirely. And not a particularly original or unique version of it, either. But I can't see into the man's soul, as some posters apparently can so what do I know? *shrug*


I'll dispute that. "Normal" is a word that I've rarely heard ascribed to Johnny Weir and certainly not as an attribute he aims to achieve. ...

Well, if you can't see into Johnny's soul, :eek: you apparently are able to see into some part of his brain :D if indeed you are so certain about the "attributes he aims to achieve."

Funnily enough, I am also acquainted with a few people who happen to know Johnny and some of his family members fairly intimately. A bit removed, I know, and unlike you, I haven't had the pleasure of actually meeting Johnny in person for even a few, brief encounters. I have followed his career very closely over the years. Of course, none of this amounts to being able to "see into the man's soul." What I do interpret from my meager "Johnny knowledge" and based on what I've heard from acquaintances who know him, he's quite the complex individual, but also in many ways an open book. ;) Not very different from most human beings, except for his unique gifts and for the resultant mini fame. Fame is fleeting, while true friends, family and the stuff of real life, we're kind of all stuck with until our last mortal breath. (Hey, maybe an idea for a poem) :)

OKay, I'm not trying to compete with you or who you know who knows Johnny (are any of them USFS members perhaps? :P ). In any case, its obviously possible for different people to have different takes, especially on FSU. I also think Johnny, like most people, possibly has changed at least outwardly and in terms of how people view him, as he's grown over the years (again, as happens with most people, especially those in the public eye). I don't think Johnny's persona or who he is inside has changed overmuch. That doesn't mean I can see inside his soul :yikes: -- I'm basing this view again on having followed Johnny's career quite closely and having read so much of what he's written, read and listened to interviews, and spoken to people who know him, etc. But truthfully, what do I really know about The Talented Mr. Weir. (c) 2011

Any case, I repeat my conjecture: "Johnny responds to people in the same way they respond to him. He can be rebellious and challenging and diva-ish, and he can be quite funny and kind. Some people, perhaps, are able to see beyond his facade."



"Be Unique!" (Or join the haters on FSU lol)

:lol: Or become jaded on FSU! :rollin:

Actually, I don't think I could ever seriously hate Johnny or hate on him, not even on the occasions when I might be somewhat annoyed by something he said or by an opinion of his I disagree with, and not even if he ever "kicked my dog."

Disclaimer: I don't have a dog. :D



It's not. It's just that some people harbor what others believe are misperceptions. Also Average Joe Blow does not have websites devoted to other people's perceptions regarding him, good or bad, most of which are pure conjecture. Ah the price of fame.

Ahhh, thanks REO. I don't always agree with your every point of view, but most of the time I think you nail it quite efficiently. Thanks for providing at least some balance or middle ground here. :D


Conjecturally-speaking ... most of what is said here does not actually affect Johnny Weir, or reveal his motivations, his thoughts, or his inner soul. It's just us unfamous mortals flinging our perceptions around ... and around ... To little avail. On fan forums, a thread is a thread is a thread that threads its way meanderingly, excitedly, snarkily, laughingly, quietly ... into archive oblivion. In other words, threads can be nuts, or full of nuts (and pins and needles), and then like everything and everyone on the Planet, they die. LOL, I can hear someone complaining in this case, "Not soon enough!" :watch:

antmanb
03-23-2011, 10:05 AM
Well, if you can't see into Johnny's soul, :eek: you apparently are able to see into some part of his brain :D if indeed you are so certain about the "attributes he aims to achieve."

Funnily enough, I am also acquainted with a few people who happen to know Johnny and some of his family members fairly intimately. A bit removed, I know, and unlike you, I haven't had the pleasure of actually meeting Johnny in person for even a few, brief encounters. I have followed his career very closely over the years. Of course, none of this amounts to being able to "see into the man's soul." What I do interpret from my meager "Johnny knowledge" and based on what I've heard from acquaintances who know him, he's quite the complex individual, but also in many ways an open book. ;) Not very different from most human beings, except for his unique gifts and for the resultant mini fame. Fame is fleeting, while true friends, family and the stuff of real life, we're kind of all stuck with until our last mortal breath. (Hey, maybe an idea for a poem) :)

OKay, I'm not trying to compete with you or who you know who knows Johnny (are any of them USFS members perhaps? :P ). In any case, its obviously possible for different people to have different takes, especially on FSU. I also think Johnny, like most people, possibly has changed at least outwardly and in terms of how people view him, as he's grown over the years (again, as happens with most people, especially those in the public eye). I don't think Johnny's persona or who he is inside has changed overmuch. That doesn't mean I can see inside his soul :yikes: -- I'm basing this view again on having followed Johnny's career quite closely and having read so much of what he's written, read and listened to interviews, and spoken to people who know him, etc. But truthfully, what do I really know about The Talented Mr. Weir. (c) 2011

Any case, I repeat my conjecture: "Johnny responds to people in the same way they respond to him. He can be rebellious and challenging and diva-ish, and he can be quite funny and kind. Some people, perhaps, are able to see beyond his facade."




:lol: Or become jaded on FSU! :rollin:

Actually, I don't think I could ever seriously hate Johnny or hate on him, not even on the occasions when I might be somewhat annoyed by something he said or by an opinion of his I disagree with, and not even if he ever "kicked my dog."

Disclaimer: I don't have a dog. :D




Ahhh, thanks REO. I don't always agree with your every point of view, but most of the time I think you nail it quite efficiently. Thanks for providing at least some balance or middle ground here. :D


Conjecturally-speaking ... most of what is said here does not actually affect Johnny Weir, or reveal his motivations, his thoughts, or his inner soul. It's just us unfamous mortals flinging our perceptions around ... and around ... To little avail. On fan forums, a thread is a thread is a thread that threads its way meanderingly, excitedly, snarkily, laughingly, quietly ... into archive oblivion. In other words, threads can be nuts, or full of nuts (and pins and needles), and then like everything and everyone on the Planet, they die. LOL, I can hear someone complaining in this case, "Not soon enough!" :watch:


So by way of summary - you have never met Johnny, you can't see into his soul or mind. Everything you write is purely conjecture.

Pretty much a level playing field in this thread and everyone is simply expressing their opinions on what is out there in the media/Johnny puts out there in his book etc.

aftershocks
03-23-2011, 11:19 AM
^ Ya, okay, but you left out the nuts and the flinging and the last breath (too morbid?) Oh well, there is a needle or two there I suppose, in your selective so-called "by way of summary." BTW, never did I write that “everything I write is purely conjecture” – that’s purely conjecture on your part. :D

Die thread die. Sigh… Not soon enough!

antmanb
03-23-2011, 01:18 PM
^ Ya, okay, but you left out the nuts and the flinging and the last breath (too morbid?) Oh well, there is a needle or two there I suppose, in your selective so-called "by way of summary." BTW, never did I write that “everything I write is purely conjecture” – that’s purely conjecture on your part. :D

Die thread die. Sigh… Not soon enough!

Well several times in your post you make it clear it's just conjecture on your part.



[snip]
I also think Johnny, like most people, possibly has changed at least outwardly and in terms of how people view him, as he's grown over the years (again, as happens with most people, especially those in the public eye). I don't think Johnny's persona or who he is inside has changed overmuch. That doesn't mean I can see inside his soul :yikes: -- I'm basing this view again on having followed Johnny's career quite closely and having read so much of what he's written, read and listened to interviews, and spoken to people who know him, etc. But truthfully, what do I really know about The Talented Mr. Weir. (c) 2011

Any case, I repeat my conjecture: "Johnny responds to people in the same way they respond to him. He can be rebellious and challenging and diva-ish, and he can be quite funny and kind. Some people, perhaps, are able to see beyond his facade."

[snip]
Conjecturally-speaking ...

You admit you don't know him, have no first hand experience of him, so anything you say about his state of mind, his personality type, who the "real " johnny weir is, is total conjecture.

Like I said in my original post - all of us (witha few exceptions) are in the same boat, so all we're really doing is discussing differences of opinion. Either of us trying to pass off our conjecture as fact will always be wrong (but i quote you to substnatiate some of my conjecture) ;)

aftershocks
03-24-2011, 03:32 AM
Hey antmanb, dissect, interpret, misinterpret, and post your perceptions in whatever way makes you happy – “unfaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i iiiiiiiiir[ness], total conjecture, passing off conjecture as fact,” abject pablum, “same boat, level playing field,” scoring, boring… :yawn:

Maybe there’s one thing we can agree on, I like Johnny, you apparently not as much. Not an earth-shattering matter. As usual with over-the-top Johnny threads, most of it hasn't really been about Johnny or figure skating.

My apologies to Lexxandra, who was kind enough to start this thread on a positive note, with the video links to Johnny’s meeting with his Russian fans.
:saint:

antmanb
03-24-2011, 03:42 PM
Hey antmanb, dissect, interpret, misinterpret, and post your perceptions in whatever way makes you happy – “unfaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i iiiiiiiiir[ness], total conjecture, passing off conjecture as fact,” abject pablum, “same boat, level playing field,” scoring, boring… :yawn:

Maybe there’s one thing we can agree on, I like Johnny, you apparently not as much. Not an earth-shattering matter. As usual with over-the-top Johnny threads, most of it hasn't really been about Johnny or figure skating.

My apologies to Lexxandra, who was kind enough to start this thread on a positive note, with the video links to Johnny’s meeting with his Russian fans.
:saint:

Thanks for your kind permission, I will continue since i have been granted your permission ;)

Sylvia
05-10-2011, 08:51 PM
Johnny tweeted about skating today:

Skated great today! First day trying quads again. #Terrifying

antmanb
05-11-2011, 03:12 PM
:rofl: I particularly like the "#terrifying". Sounds pretty serious about skating if he's training quads again. Is he still with Galina?

Justathoughtabl
05-11-2011, 06:15 PM
I think he's telling the truth when he tells reporters that he's just not sure if he's returning and his intentions vary day by day. I do think he's seriously considering it and not just trying to get publicity. (He's getting more publicity from his fashion stuff anyway-- the mainstream press doesn't really talk about skaters and skating.) But it sounds like he's being very practical in realizing that IF he returns, he's going to have to try quads--something I think he did in previous seasons, but not in 2009/2010. He's no dummy, and he watched the competitions this past season and saw the quadding and how it affected scores. Whether he returns or not, I love that he's getting back into shape. It's good news to hear that from any skater, but especially from one who moves as beautifully as he does and has been performing regularly.

RockTheTassel
05-11-2011, 07:23 PM
I think he's telling the truth when he tells reporters that he's just not sure if he's returning and his intentions vary day by day. I do think he's seriously considering it and not just trying to get publicity. (He's getting more publicity from his fashion stuff anyway-- the mainstream press doesn't really talk about skaters and skating.) But it sounds like he's being very practical in realizing that IF he returns, he's going to have to try quads--something I think he did in previous seasons, but not in 2009/2010. He's no dummy, and he watched the competitions this past season and saw the quadding and how it affected scores. Whether he returns or not, I love that he's getting back into shape. It's good news to hear that from any skater, but especially from one who moves as beautifully as he does and has been performing regularly.

ITA. If he does start seriously training the quad, I hope he posts a video on his youtube channel.

judiz
05-12-2011, 01:02 AM
Johnny told me at the Ice House that he is going to resume training with Galina when she returns from her vacation.

Triple Butz
05-12-2011, 02:16 AM
Johnny told me at the Ice House that he is going to resume training with Galina when she returns from her vacation.

damn...if he really intends to return he needs a new coaching team.