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Loves_Shizuka
03-05-2011, 01:39 PM
With junior worlds being on this week, I took a look at the past results. I found it quite interesting to see so many names I did know, yet also so many I didn't. Going through the dance and pairs results, there are LOADS I don't recognise. The list would be really long if I included them lol. One interesting result I spotted: Galina Manichenko winning the pairs bronze with Evgeni Gigurski in 94 :eek: Didn't know she was a pairs skater. Incidentally, that was the year Maria Petrova and Anton Sikharulidze won.

Anyway, obviously I know and have seen some of these skaters, but I wondered what became of them?

Vincent Restencourt (2nd in 99, 00, 3rd in 01 behind Evan and Johnny)
Jordan Brauninger (3rd in 04)
Sergei Dobrin (3rd in 05)
Elena Ivanova (WJC in 96, 2nd in 95, 3rd in 97, 2nd in 98) 4 time WJ medallist yet I know nothing about her!
Elena Pingacheva (2nd in 96)
Nadejda Kanaeva (3rd in 96)
Sydne Vogel (WJC in 97)
Daria Timoshenko (WJC in 99)
Deanna Stellato (2nd in 00)
Kristina Oblasova (WJC in 01)

nirti
03-05-2011, 01:51 PM
For their competitive history after 2000 :

Vincent Restencourt (http://www.planete-patinage.com/biographies/1_retraites/france/restencourt_vincent.htm)
Jordan Brauninger (http://www.planete-patinage.com/biographies/1_retraites/etatsunis/brauninger_jordan.htm)
Sergei Dobrin (http://www.planete-patinage.com/biographies/1_retraites/russie/dobrin_sergei.htm)
Sydne Vogel (http://www.planete-patinage.com/biographies/1_retraites/allemagne/vogel_sydne.htm)
Daria Timoshenko (http://www.planete-patinage.com/biographies/1_retraites/azerbaidjan/timoshenko_daria.htm)
Deanna Stellato (http://www.planete-patinage.com/biographies/1_retraites/etatsunis/stellato_deanna.htm)
Kristina Oblasova (http://www.planete-patinage.com/biographies/1_retraites/russie/oblasova_kristina.htm)

For many of them the story is the same : too strong senior field in their country, some difficulties at the begin of their senior career, with sometimes injuries...

CaptCrunch
03-05-2011, 02:16 PM
One of the worst judging decisions I've ever seen took place at 96 jr worlds in the LP. For Ivanova to win the LP over Pingacheva was just a joke. Pingacheva skated the perfect program for a girl at Jr worlds that day landing 5 different triples and yet the judges put her behind Ivanova who had several mistakes and muscled ugly jumps.

Was Pingacheva 5th in the SP to Ivanova's 1st? I can't remember right now.

Considering Elena Ivanova won 4 medals at Jr worlds she was a really ugly skater. Sure she could do 3f/3t combos but her skating was not pleasant to watch at all. Not surprising she disappeared upon entering the Sr ranks.

barbk
03-05-2011, 02:55 PM
Under 6.0 I think that there were some different things valued in junior skating vs. senior skating. Guys who could land a 3 axel at the junior level were pretty rare, and that alone would push someone way up. Juniors who could rotate the jumps but who barely got off the ice (Jenny Kirk, imo) or who were quite slow still did very well in Juniors as long as they landed the jumps, under 6.0's definition of landing with no doublefooting. The generally smaller juniors spun pretty well, and growth often caused their spins to really decline in quality.

I think that COP is aligned a lot better for comparisons from junior to senior, and the skaters who've come up from JW with high scores under COP seem to do pretty well in seniors.

I don't think that there are

nylynnr
03-05-2011, 03:39 PM
One of the worst judging decisions I've ever seen took place at 96 jr worlds in the LP.

Don't forget your all-time fave, Petrenko over Galindo in the free skate in '86. That was 6.0 judging at its finest.

Sylvia
03-05-2011, 04:03 PM
Deanna Stellato has found fulfillment off the ice (http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100204&content_id=8019350&vkey=ice_news) (Feb. 4, 2010)

Nadia Kanaeva has been coaching in Lake Arrowhead, CA for many years now -- link to her coaching profile: http://www.icecastle.us/coaching.html

Nadia was a Russian National Team member for six consecutive years at both the Novice and Junior levels. She has apprenticed as a coach under the tutelage of Elena Vodorezova and is currently assistant coach to Rafael Arutyunyan. Under such guidance Nadia has developed a wide repertory of coaching skills involving jumps, spins, footwork and choreography. Her students have included two-time Japanese National Champion and 2008 World Champion Mao Asada, and her sister, Mai Asada.

Last I heard, Vincent Restencourt was coaching at IceWorks in Aston, PA (same rink as Linichuk and Karponosov).

Jordan Brauninger quit competitive skating after 2005 Nationals (11th in Senior Men) and began his professional career as one of the leads in Disney's High School Musical tour in 2007. I assume he is still skating in professional shows these days?

Sydne Vogel posted an update about herself here in December 2005. :)

skatak
03-05-2011, 04:06 PM
We saw Vincent Restencourt at French Nationals a few years ago, he was there with some of his students. US girls finished low, but it was nice to see him again.

Marco
03-05-2011, 04:46 PM
One of the worst judging decisions I've ever seen took place at 96 jr worlds in the LP. For Ivanova to win the LP over Pingacheva was just a joke. Pingacheva skated the perfect program for a girl at Jr worlds that day landing 5 different triples and yet the judges put her behind Ivanova who had several mistakes and muscled ugly jumps.

Was Pingacheva 5th in the SP to Ivanova's 1st? I can't remember right now.

Considering Elena Ivanova won 4 medals at Jr worlds she was a really ugly skater. Sure she could do 3f/3t combos but her skating was not pleasant to watch at all. Not surprising she disappeared upon entering the Sr ranks.

Yes. I don't get that at all. Pingacheva was all quality.

Something similar happened with Kirk beating Stellato in 2000.

Jayar
03-05-2011, 06:29 PM
Sydne Vogel posted an update about herself here in December 2005. :)

Syd is married now, and she is either finishing up or finished with medical school.

Moka-Ananas
03-05-2011, 07:04 PM
Dobrin retired from amateur skating and is now travelling through Russia and giving master classes to little kids.
Later on he plans to become a real coach in his own rink etc.

MacMadame
03-05-2011, 07:30 PM
Jordan Brauninger quit competitive skating after 2005 Nationals (11th in Senior Men) and began his professional career as one of the leads in Disney's High School Musical tour in 2007. I assume he is still skating in professional shows these days?
He was in the last Disney on Ice show I saw... It was High School Musical. I believe that was in 2008 but, as far as I've been able to determine, he's still with them.

ioana
03-05-2011, 07:35 PM
Every time I see Restencourt and Brauninger's names together, I remember the fluff piece from Junior Worlds where Jordan was asked to talk about his competitors. "Vincent skates like a duck, but he has a quad". I tried finding it on youtube, but haven't had any luck.

Daria Timoshenko country hopped to AZE after 2000 and started a fine tradition of other skaters doing the same :shuffle: I think she was also married to Igor Lukanin for a while, but they got divorced a few years ago. Is she still coaching in NJ?

gkelly
03-05-2011, 08:07 PM
Every time I see Restencourt and Brauninger's names together, I remember the fluff piece from Junior Worlds where Jordan was asked to talk about his competitors. "Vincent skates like a duck, but he has a quad". I tried finding it on youtube, but haven't had any luck.

Wasn't it Preaubert he said that about?


Daria Timoshenko country hopped to AZE after 2000 and started a fine tradition of other skaters doing the same :shuffle:

Oh, I think Yulia Vorobieva got there first, followed by Igor Pashkevich.

briancoogaert
03-05-2011, 08:15 PM
Wasn't it Preaubert he said that about?
I think you are right, because Brauninger never competed against Vincent Restencourt, IIRC.
But Preaubert doesn't have a quad, or at least didn't have a quad back then (2004).

Loves_Shizuka
03-05-2011, 08:32 PM
Thanks for all the info so far guys.

Any word on what happened to Oblasova? I remember watching her at Euros (I think) and NOT being impressed, so I guess she just got surpassed?

Russia seemed to have quite a depth in the junior ranks in the mid 90's - how come it was only Slutskaya and Bute who "made it"? (And to a much lesser extent, Soldatova and Volchkova) Any ideas?



Oh, I think Yulia Vorobieva got there first, followed by Igor Pashkevich.

Regardless, I loved Vorobieva and her scratch spin. :D