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pinky166
03-10-2011, 04:27 AM
I just love Fiddler on the Roof. Has it been used as a fd?

I/K's FD last year had some Fiddler mixed in with the Shindler's List.

shan
03-10-2011, 04:55 AM
I/K's FD last year had some Fiddler mixed in with the Shindler's List.

I didn't realize that.

dinakt
03-10-2011, 04:57 AM
I'd like I/K to skate to "Tristan and Isolde" in a few years. Perhaps the Prelude, perhaps Liebestod. I think they have "high drama" and expressivity to pull it off.
I alsways think of Bach for Jeremy Abbott, something like Goldberg variations, though it might not be practical for a variety of reasons. But his skating has the purity of line that has for me a direct association with "Aria" from Goldberg Variations.
Tomas... I have to really think about it. Tomas can skate to anything, but I agree with posters above that jazz suits him perfectly. Some good jazz, 50ies- 60ies. Like Miles Davis, Stan Getz, John Coltrane... I have to think about specifics. Actually West Side Story is not a bad idea, overused though it is, it might be a good choice. Deedeelocks, if you read this- what kind of music does Tomas like himself? He is so versatile, he has to go with his preferences. One thing that stands out about him is his obvious great sense of humor, he should use it.
I can totally see Mirai doing a " Don Quixote" program with great success.
For years I dreamed about somebody using Chopin's g-minor Ballade... but now that Mao has a stunning EX with it, it's off the table. But Chopin is still underutilized. Concerto in e-minor can be great skating music, as can all other Ballades.

Also, they would need to be edited, but I'd love to see a short program to Schumann/ Liszt "Widming" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0StsRrqTs_c&tracker=False (somebody like Alissa) and Rachmaninov's " Spring Waters" ( ballet/ orchestra version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqvdp64YU-U&tracker=False ( Mao?)

ninadel
03-10-2011, 07:45 AM
I can't have Tomas skate to something so overused as RiB... I'd have to :lynch: him.
He knows my opinion too, but of course he doesn't have to listen to that. ;)

The thing is though, it's not *really* that overused and the only reason why a skater should stay away from "overused" music is if someone has done it to great justice *recently*, and I really don't think anyone has. Like Carmen, it's a really beautiful piece that's great for skating so it's a shame that people have adverse reactions because of its recognisability. :)

Anywho, that's why I recommended Dick Tracy because it has some "Gershwin-like" pieces but is never used. It would be great if we could find some underused Gershwin or Bernstein pieces that tick all the boxes. I was listening to Bernstein's Prelude, Fugue and Riffs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMCHhPumEXc) which Paul Wylie skated to a few years back but it's really too agressive.

Kurt Browning skated to a lot of jazz so I'd just look at his catalogue (http://www.kurtfiles.com/music.php).

ninadel
03-10-2011, 07:52 AM
Agree with this! Plus doesn't Lysacek "own" RiB? So I'm not sure it would be a smart move for any male skater to use it this soon.

Bleh, Lysacek did win worlds with RiB, true. But really did anyone remember anything about this program other than the horrible costume TT put him in for most of the season?

I don't mean to be bashing Evan so much, as he's a worthy champion, but in terms of musicality and projecting to the audience Tomas can easily surpass this.

deedeelocks
03-10-2011, 09:14 AM
Yeah, but still, evan won olympics and worlds with it, and there is so much other music to choose from. I sent him a long list of music and probably will send some more in the future. I'd be really disappointed if in the end he'd go for RiB.

misskarne
03-10-2011, 11:04 AM
Yeah, but still, evan won olympics and worlds with it, and there is so much other music to choose from. I sent him a long list of music and probably will send some more in the future. I'd be really disappointed if in the end he'd go for RiB.

Just because Evan won titles with it, it doesn't mean he owns it. You can win with a piece of music without owning it. I've seen the program in question, and he certainly didn't own it. I don't think he's capable of enough expression to own it. Certainly, if Tomas can express the music properly, I don't think it would be a problem. RiB is such a beautiful piece of music.

deedeelocks
03-10-2011, 11:47 AM
Yes, but there is so much more to choose from!

gkelly
03-10-2011, 02:34 PM
I alsways think of Bach for Jeremy Abbott, something like Goldberg variations, though it might not be practical for a variety of reasons. But his skating has the purity of line that has for me a direct association with "Aria" from Goldberg Variations.

Yeah, good choice for someone with such purity of edges.


I can totally see Mirai doing a " Don Quixote" program with great success.

:yikes::wall:
Please, no. I can't even stand that music when skated to brilliantly by John Curry. Unless the skater can live up to Curry's standard, I don't want to have to listen to it again.

I might make an exception for a completely original anti-ballet interpretation, but I don't think that's what you had in mind.

dinakt
03-10-2011, 07:22 PM
:yikes::wall:
Please, no. I can't even stand that music when skated to brilliantly by John Curry. Unless the skater can live up to Curry's standard, I don't want to have to listen to it again.

I might make an exception for a completely original anti-ballet interpretation, but I don't think that's what you had in mind.

You are right, I meant quite traditional. I don't particularly adore the music, but there's my reasoning:
- Between Frank and Lori, it's likely Mirai will go with old "war horses".
- of all the current Ladies, she is the most capable of portraying Kitri, character- wise.
- she has the "ballet look" necessary
- I was terrified when she chose" Carmen" and yet she pulled it off; after that I think she can give a fresh look to overused material.
Sorry you hate "DQ" ! I hope somebody someday performs it close to Curry's most amazing standart:)

ninadel
03-11-2011, 08:30 AM
Yes, but there is so much more to choose from!

What were your top suggestions, then?

hlp728
03-13-2011, 05:34 AM
Just watched Return to Oz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StorHwBff2A&feature=related)and that soundtrack was gorgeous. Not sure who could skate to it but if I could I would.

hlp728
03-13-2011, 06:02 AM
Silk Soundtrack: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh1-WEoi_qM) Yankowskas/Coughlin

Newsies Soundtrack

Violin Romance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxsna-Ofl5U) by Patrick Doyle

The Young Victoria soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I61BTG4icJA&feature=related)

Don't Look Now soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls-qUSIFxkU)

Dana's Theme from Ghostbusters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfzoPiXK4Uw)

Radio Ballet by Eluvium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rEkxKhCp40)

edonice
03-13-2011, 03:39 PM
This might be tough music to skate to, but there's a lot of emotion and variation in it. I think of Mirai when I hear it, since I think it would help her develop a more mature style, but it would be a nice challenge for any of the more artistic skaters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aG6c_1RkJ4&feature=related

I also think of Mirai when I hear Ravel's String Quartet in F (from the Royal Tenenbaums). It's light and quick, like her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhN0RRlLhDg

Bill Withers' 'Ain't No Sunshine When She's Gone' would be an amazing show program for Jeremy Abbot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIdIqbv7SPo

It would also be fun to see someone skate to Mint Royale's version of 'Singing in the Rain', maybe in tribute to Kurt Browning's version. Again, I can only think of Jeremy Abbott: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU8t_fqvUZo

I'd love to see Alissa Czisny skate to the music from the ballet 'The Leaves are Fading': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j4CA_DvbkA (music starts around 1:15). The music has a lot of variation, and as a heavily ballet trained skater, I think she'd like the ballet history behind the music.

Philip Glass' 'Metamorphosis 1' would be an good choice for Alissa, too, because it's more powerful than she's used to but still has that lyricism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il4VDf-ugPI

I'm also surprised that nobody ever skates to Prokofiev's 'Cinderella', especially since so many of the other ballets are overused: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJisNyWDC0I

The music from 'In the mood for love' is gorgeous, too, sweeping and dramatic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U66BEZIln8Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdReiC3heu8

That's what I've got!

edonice
03-13-2011, 03:41 PM
Oh, and Janelle Monae's 'Tightrope' would be such a fun show program for Mirai Nagasu, especially since she's had kind of an up and down year and just needs to believe in herself! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwnefUaKCbc