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michiruwater
02-20-2011, 11:20 PM
I think they meant to imply that the person who would be winning the 2011 World's Bronze if she were going is in fact not going.

Which is stupid.

Shatterpoint
02-20-2011, 11:26 PM
If Mirai skated as well or a bit better than she did last night, it could happen. That said, much as I love her, I wouldn't hedge any bets on her until she gains some serious consistency in the freeskate.

Vash01
02-20-2011, 11:39 PM
I like Mirai a lot, but she did not skate well enough at the US nationals. The committee did the right thing going with those who won the first two places at the Nationals. It takes a lot to not go with the results at the nationals, like being a reigning world champ, for example. Mirai's time will come. This will be a learning experience for her. I wouldn't assume that just because she won the bronze at 4CC, she would win a medal at worlds. My interpretation of the OP's post is that she thinks Mirai would have won the bronze at worlds had she been selected to the US team.

LuckyCharm
02-20-2011, 11:46 PM
Mirai's time will come.

Especially once Flatt and Czisny get win the 3rd spot back this year. Yes, I'm a beliver.:shuffle:

Garden Kitty
02-20-2011, 11:50 PM
Actually, it's me. I'm staying home to watch the Dancing With the Stars premiere. Such unfortunate timing.

What? I thought you were going to be one of the stars! Or can't you confirm until the cast is announced? :)

LuckyCharm
02-21-2011, 12:04 AM
What? I thought you were going to be one of the stars! Or can't you confirm until the cast is announced? :)


;)

Jammers
02-21-2011, 12:35 AM
Rachael will medal if all the other girls get sick or just don't show up.

smarts1
02-21-2011, 01:04 AM
^ First she needs to dump that LP. It does her no favors.

5Ali3
02-21-2011, 01:18 AM
is staying home.

Man, is US Skating in trouble in Tokyo.

Yes, if a skater who stays home instead of competing at Worlds still manages to win a bronze medal at Worlds, then the political influence of U.S. Figure Skating is in serious trouble. Up until now, skaters have at least had to show up at a competition to medal.

FWIW, three of the four bronze medalists from 2011 4Cs will not be competing at Worlds.


:watch: :argue:

This is a complete summation of FSU, in two smilies. Really, all I can say in response is: :kickass:

RD
02-21-2011, 01:39 AM
No. Alissa and Rachael deserved their spot for Worlds fair-and-square. At Nationals, it seemed like Mirai just gave up in the long program.

I agree with this, for the most part...Czisny has demonstrated newfound competence, and even with her just-OK showing at 4CC, shows that even if she's not perfect, she can still challenge for top 6/7 spot and keep us in the running for 3 spots. And Flatt has shown that GPF was just an aberration, rather than the beginning of a downward spiral (I still think she should have WD, but that's over and done with).

Nagasu strikes me as extremely emotional and performs based on what mood she is currently in. If she's not feeling it, she will literally mail it in. But if she is, she is absolutely the best skater we have. Not sure I want someone like that on the world team until she can get her nerves under control.

leesaleesa
02-21-2011, 01:39 AM
Does this mean that Japan is not giving Fumie another shot at World bronze because she's forty or something? :P

bardtoob
02-21-2011, 01:53 AM
As I said before . . .


Rachel ended up exactly where she was expected to end up, and deserves her Worlds bid. I'm sorry to say that Mirai and Allyssa's flipped results was also expected :slinkaway

Mirai was not prepared for Nationals, which was the qualifying competition for Worlds, but, of course, she had a few extra weeks, felt the sting of Nationals, and was prepared for 4CC. Unfortunately, this is not much of a consolation prize.

barbk
02-21-2011, 03:28 AM
As I said before . .
Mirai was not prepared for Nationals, which was the qualifying competition for Worlds, but, of course, she had a few extra weeks, felt the sting of Nationals, and was prepared for 4CC. Unfortunately, this is not much of a consolation prize.

Agreed. Mirai is like Alissa -- when they're on, they're both fabulous. But the chance that they're fully on for both the short and the LP is pretty low. Alissa is doing better this year -- no real meltdowns -- but she still is kind of iffy.

Mirai knows perfectly well that US Nationals is the critical competition for qualifying -- think of last year when she ended up on the Olympic team ahead of Ashley Wagner despite Ashley having made it to the GP Final when nobody else did among the US Women. Ashley was crushed.

Mirai made her own bed by failing to work hard in the months up to Nationals, and Frank as much as said so.

neptune
02-21-2011, 03:47 AM
I think they meant to imply that the person who would be winning the 2011 World's Bronze if she were going is in fact not going.

Which is stupid.

Not necessarily. The ISU has been accused of being behind the times, so they're trying to change all that. For a limited number of participants, telecommuting was recently sanctioned as a valid option by the ISU Congress. So, the bronze medalist at this year's Worlds, whoever she may be, will either be phoning in her performance or submitting it electronically. If the latter, I sure hope she has a high-speed connection. ;)

pinky166
02-21-2011, 03:52 AM
Not necessarily. The ISU been accused of being behind the times, so they're trying to change all that. For a limited number of participants, telecommuting was recently sanctioned as a valid option by the ISU Congress. So, the bronze medalist at this year's Worlds, whoever she may be, will either be phoning in her performance or submitting it electronically. If the latter, I sure hope she has a high-speed connection. ;)

I don't think we can say it's a given Mirai would win bronze at worlds even if she skated perfectly. In fact, if they were all to go clean, I would expect Yuna, Mao, and Miki to all finish ahead of her and further, a totally clean Carolina or Alissa could potentially beat her too. I love Mirai, but this thread is very presumptive.