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euterpe
02-20-2011, 02:13 AM
If you click on this:

http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-202933-220156-nav-list,00.html

You get a choice of Men Standings, Pairs Standings, Ladies Standings and Ice Dance Standings.

Clicking Pairs, Ladies and Ice Dance all bring you to the correct page.

But Men Standings brings up a blank page. :confused:

chipso1
02-20-2011, 02:46 AM
It's been down all day. I'm sure it will be up again soon after the standings are updated with 4CC results.

haribobo
02-20-2011, 02:46 AM
I noticed that too. Check back tomorrow I bet by then it will be updated......FYI here were their placements pre-4cc:

Takahashi 5
Abbott 8
Kozuka 10
Rippon 18
Reynolds 23
Hanyu 25
Song 26
Sawyer 29
J Wu 39
Rakimgaliev 41
Mahbanooz 43
J Guan 71
MS Kim 90
S Kuo 105
Russell 105
Webster 109

haribobo
02-20-2011, 03:16 PM
Rankings have been updated:

Takahashi 5 to 1
Abbott 8 to 6
Kozuka 10 to 9
Rippon 18 to 15
Reynolds 23 to 22
Hanyu 25 to 19
Song 26 to 27
Sawyer 29 to 26
J Wu 39 to 35
Rakimgaliev 41 to 39
Mahbanoozadeh 43 to 28
J Guan 71 to 45
MS Kim 90 to 83
S Kuo 105 to 91
Russell 105 to 76
Webster 109 to 107
Misha Ge- debut at 112

barbk
02-20-2011, 04:05 PM
Woah -- Armin and J. Guan both took huge leaps. Good for them.

Skate Talker
02-20-2011, 05:09 PM
As did Russell

Jayar
02-20-2011, 06:34 PM
These rankings make zero sense. The math doesn't work. Can someone explain how Oda is ranked ahead of Kozuka when Kozuka has more points?

JJH
02-20-2011, 07:03 PM
Jayar, in the season's world rankings, Kozuka is #3 with 1660 points and Oda is #12 with 1080 points. In the world standings, Oda is #4 with 3635 points and Kozuka is #9 with 3098 points. Kozuka has more points for this season. Oda has more points for the overall history of 3 seasons. What about this doesn't make sense?

Jayar
02-20-2011, 08:01 PM
Jayar, in the season's world rankings, Kozuka is #3 with 1660 points and Oda is #12 with 1080 points. In the world standings, Oda is #4 with 3635 points and Kozuka is #9 with 3098 points. Kozuka has more points for this season. Oda has more points for the overall history of 3 seasons. What about this doesn't make sense?


Oda has the following:

2010-11: 720+360= 1080
2009-10: 638+720+400= 1758
2008-09: 447+280+175+175= 1077
Total: 3915

Kozuka has the following:

2010-11: 612+648+400=1660
2009-10: 574+360+213= 1147
2008-09: 496+504+280= 1280
Total: 4087

*THAT* is how it doesn't make sense.

Lanna
02-20-2011, 08:16 PM
Previous seasons are factored. (http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=1949)


2.4 Weight (Factor) per season
2.4.1 Current and intermediate season’s earned points will count 100 %
2.4.2 Previous season’s earned points will count 70 %


EDIT: Never mind, I can't read. :)

Sylvia
02-20-2011, 08:21 PM
I thought the 2008-09 line is already factored by 70%?

chipso1
02-20-2011, 08:21 PM
Previous seasons are factored. (http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=1949)

Those are already taken into account on the WS site.

Jayar is correct: based on the points the ISU has listed for each athlete, Kozuka should be 2nd overall with 4087, and Oda should be 3rd overall with 3915.

chipso1
02-20-2011, 08:25 PM
Other point discrepancies:

Patrick Chan
Listed: 3684
Should be: 3920

Tomas Verner
Listed: 3617
Should be: 4554 :confused:

Either the points listed are incorrect, or there's some other error somewhere...

ETA: Nevermind. Thanks euterpe!

euterpe
02-20-2011, 08:25 PM
One man may have more points if you count all the entries, but not all entries count towards the total:


In the World/Olympics category, only the top TWO values are counted.

In the GP/JGP Category, only the top FOUR values are counted.

In the "Other International" category, the highest two values per year are recorded; only the top 4 values are counted.

This is explained in detail in ISU Communication 1629.
http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-130267-131575-nav-list,00.html

Squibble
02-20-2011, 08:27 PM
These rankings make zero sense. The math doesn't work. Can someone explain how Oda is ranked ahead of Kozuka when Kozuka has more points?

This is an organization that sometimes lists men in the ladies' standings and dance teams in the pairs' standings. And you're expecting it to do basic arithmetic too? :wall: