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dinakt
05-01-2011, 01:54 AM
Thank you, Oleada.

Marco
05-01-2011, 08:48 AM
Leonova and Makarova still have a good shot since the bunch who are age eligible next season are all very inconsistent and not through the puberty monster yet. Plus they both earned major brownie points for regaining that 3rd spot and especially for Leonova who skated almost as well as she could have, at home.

I could not have predicted that Russia could get its 3rd spot back before US did before the Sotnikova era.

Loves_Shizuka
05-01-2011, 09:41 AM
^IKR. I remember one thread where people were basically laughing at the idea of Russia getting three spots this year and the US not.

Oh dear :slinkaway

shah
05-01-2011, 11:53 AM
Tchaikovskaya

:yikes:



Eligible for senior championships next season:

Alena Leonova
Ksenia Makarova
Sofia Biryukova
Polina Shelepen
Polina Agafonova
Rosa Sheveleva
Anna Ovcharova
Polina Korobeynikova

and to think a few seasons ago Doronina and Petushkova were the best ladies Russia could offer :P...

Moka-Ananas
05-01-2011, 02:03 PM
Tchaikovskaya

wasn't he with Chetverukhin right after he left Buianova?
Why did he leave Buianova at all?

rfisher
05-01-2011, 02:32 PM
Given the depth in Russian ladies and pairs, the potential in dance and even in mens (you can almost guarantee Plushenko will be there and will have a program that will score well with COP), I really don't get all the speculation that the Russian government or figure skating federation will be *buying* medals at Sochi. They have the talent in every discipline to win medals. They don't need to buy them. No doubt, they, just as did Canada, want to improve their chances in all the sports and will fund and train lots of athletes. And, why not if the economy allows? I look forward to the next 3 years of skating. There are some very talented skaters now and on the horizon who will be fun to watch.

Fashionista
05-01-2011, 06:48 PM
wasn't he with Chetverukhin right after he left Buianova?
Why did he leave Buianova at all?

He left Buianova with scandal and went to Chetverukhin first but CSKA management said it was unacceptable Artem staying in CSKA. That time new ice rink for Tchaikovskaya's school opened and she invited Chetverukhin with his students including Borodulin to join her school. I don't know what's happened next but somehow Borodulin ended up as Tchaikovskaya and Kotin's student. Chetverukhin is coaching children.

altai_rose
05-01-2011, 08:33 PM
He left Buianova with scandal and went to Chetverukhin first but CSKA management said it was unacceptable Artem staying in CSKA. That time new ice rink for Tchaikovskaya's school opened and she invited Chetverukhin with his students including Borodulin to join her school. I don't know what's happened next but somehow Borodulin ended up as Tchaikovskaya and Kotin's student. Chetverukhin is coaching children.
Any info on the scandal? :sekret:

oleada
05-01-2011, 08:42 PM
well, yes :)
Maxim Kovtun (b. 1994) his new coach is Morozov. Will debut at JGP next season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmvy3YLpLpI

I'm excited about this move. I don't like Morosov as a person, but he is good at teaching jumps and confidence. I think Maxim has potential.

Fashionista
05-01-2011, 08:50 PM
Any info on the scandal? :sekret:
Why, oh, why people love scandals sooo much?:D
I suspect the scandal had something to do with Artem's unfortunate season.

Moka-Ananas
05-02-2011, 12:59 AM
Well, he was injured and could barely compete...like many other skaters...so why scandal? :drama:

quiqie
05-02-2011, 04:13 PM
Interview with Piseev in Moscow News http://mn.ru/sports/20110502/301583985.html

Director-general of the Russian Figure Skating Federation Valentin Piseev briefly summarized the Russian team performance, spoke about the future training strategy and commented on how the ISU estimated the organization of the World Figure Skating Championships.

- Valentin Nikolaevich, what is the main result of the championships?

- Our team result - two medals - silver (pairs skating) and bronze (men) is what we planned, but not where we expected. We had hopes for ice dancers, but both couples made mistakes. Nevertheless, it's a huge progress for Russian figure skating. Our athletes became much more reputable. Debutants Tatiana Volosozhar - Maxim Trankov can be called unique. This couple is a real contender for the Olympic gold in Sochi. Young athletes' level also increased considerably. One year ago many skaters got PCS less than 7.25s, now most of them get 8 and more. If they showed more consistency, the results could be better. But the most important thing is that at the next world championships we have three spots in pairs, women singles and ice dancing, and two in men.

- Lately, we hear that the Russian coaches should concentrate on working with Russian skaters. But we have a lot of young skaters, and they need strong "sparring partners". What to do?

- We need strong athletes to look up to, I agree.

- Well, if the French champions Nathalie Pechalat - Fabien Bourzat leave Zhulin, who would Ilinykh — Katsalapov train with? By the way, after the European Championships it was made clear that French dancers, being foreigners, couldn't live in the Olympic training centre in Novogorsk, and only intervention of Russian Deputy Minister of Sports Yuri Nagornykh helped to solve the issue.

- Everything should be done reasonably. You can't rush from one extreme to another. And the question is not whether to expel [them from the group] or not. In each case we must consider the expediency. If our athletes benefit from [training together], then the foreigners should stay and train. If it is contrary to our interests, then something needs to be changed.

I agree that French couple was an example for Ilinykh - Katsalapov, but perhaps now they can be replaced by other athletes, Canadians or Americans, for example. The principle is that our Russian coaches must work with our athletes. Everything else should be subordinated to this work.

- How can it be achieved in case of Marina Zueva and Igor Shpilband? It is hard to imagine that they would put aside the Canadians and Americans to work with Yana Khokhlova and Fedor Andreev.

- We have expectations for Khokhlova - Andreev. In this case, you should take into account the fact that Fedor is Marina's son. Therefore, work is work, money is money, but there are still some moments that will probably let her pay more attention to this couple.

- Won't this situation make Zhulin and Morozov take their students and go abroad?

- I think they are interested in working with with Russian skaters. For example, we will not object if Miki Ando or Florent Amodio stay with Nikolai Morozov. As for the rest of his students, again, we have to act in accordance with our interests.

As for Alexander Zhulin, he should decide for himself whether he is in sport or in show-business. His skaters train for four hours a day, without break, when everyone else has already switched to two practices a day. Sasha is very talented and we can rely on such a coach. But Zhulin should decide. I hope we will have serious discussion soon.

- What can you say about the championships organization? At a recent press conference the head of the International Skating Union (ISU), Ottavio Cinquanta, said that the work of organizing committee was eight on a 10-point scale.

- You know, I think that the previous championships could hardly be estimated as six. In such a short time in the situation of force majeure we did our best to hold the competition at highest level. And I think we succeeded, thanks to the professional work of coordinated team that prepared Worlds 2005. Both then and now there was no problem with transport, accommodation, training, nutrition of athletes, coaches, delegates and officials. I haven't heard any critizism, nothing negative, only good things. And I don't want even begin speaking of our hospitality. Reception in Russia cannot be compared to any other country. Abroad they try to save on everything, while we can't afford looking cheap.

Loves_Shizuka
05-02-2011, 04:23 PM
^Thank you! Interesting read.

Do people think it was realistic for the Russian fed to hope or maybe even expect a medal in dance?

Autumn_girl
05-02-2011, 04:32 PM
^Thank you! Interesting read.

Do people think it was realistic for the Russian fed to hope or maybe even expect a medal in dance?

Well, I think B/S or even I/K had all the chances to beat the Shibutanis and didn't do it only because of their own mistakes... And after Gachinski's bronze and Leonova's almost bronze it didn't seem unrealistic at all

Loves_Shizuka
05-02-2011, 04:40 PM
^Hmm, true, but that was all very in the heat of the moment. I get the impression they were hoping/expecting for a dance medal prior to the actual start of the competition - neither team was ever going to beat D/W or V/M and P/B beat them both pretty handily at Euros. I agree, had they not made mistakes they could have medalled, but I/K went before P/B anyway - and their mistake was not really forseen. I just think it was a bit of an unfair stretch to expect a medal.