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Vash01
02-03-2011, 05:46 PM
I am behind on this. Does Russia have just one mens spot at worlds this year?

Kasey
02-03-2011, 05:48 PM
I am behind on this. Does Russia have just one mens spot at worlds this year?

Yes.

And I wasn't suggesting that Voronov would maybe go to worlds; just commenting on what it seemed to have happened based on the free skate video. I wouldn't be surprised if he's relieved this season is over.

senorita
02-03-2011, 07:29 PM
^ Voronov would be a better choice than the 3, he has more experience and when he is on he gets better marks than the other 3. I was just too surprised if RF would do something like this against the nationals results. Ok not TOO surprised but the contradiction with all the talking and US team selection would be huge. (stil I hope he gets back to Urmy)
Now a 17 year old on his first trip to worlds needs to do very well, thats risky.

Kasey
02-03-2011, 08:50 PM
I love Sergei, but the poor kid hasn't been "on" all year unfortunately. Gachinski beat Voronov's Universiade score by 12 points ith his Euros performance....I guess that's earning it.

Moka-Ananas
02-03-2011, 09:11 PM
^ Voronov would be a better choice than the 3, he has more experience and when he is on he gets better marks than the other 3. I was just too surprised if RF would do something like this against the nationals results. Ok not TOO surprised but the contradiction with all the talking and US team selection would be huge. (stil I hope he gets back to Urmy)
Now a 17 year old on his first trip to worlds needs to do very well, thats risky.

Yeah...experience...but he wasn't competing this season internationally at all (and if he was, he withdrew after the SP) except for the Universiade. And he was beaten by both, Menshov AND Gachinski (and even Zhan Bush) at Russian Nats, so...
But even if Voronov is brought into this discussion...why not consider Borodulin who won Estonian Nats after all? :rolleyes:

And I highly doubt Urmy would take Voronov back.

Nomad
02-03-2011, 09:15 PM
It's a crapshoot no matter whom they send. Voronov has been to World's four times but only achieved a top ten finish once, and that was three years ago.

DELTA
02-03-2011, 10:14 PM
^ Voronov would be a better choice than the 3, he has more experience and when he is on he gets better marks than the other 3. I was just too surprised if RF would do something like this against the nationals results. Ok not TOO surprised but the contradiction with all the talking and US team selection would be huge. (stil I hope he gets back to Urmy)
Now a 17 year old on his first trip to worlds needs to do very well, thats risky.


He needs to gain experience. As for the Worlds result itself, there's not nothing to gain this year.

senorita
02-03-2011, 10:14 PM
^ I know but it looks Arthur will have a huge load on his shoulders to bring back spots for Nice , thats all.
Voronov reminds me of Abt in the sence of bad luck and injuries. And I hope Borodulin wont follow the same path. The last season was going so good for him until worlds, and I read somewhere when they reported last Worlds that the blade to break is 1/100000.. (dont remmeber how many zeros here).. possibility, less probable than winning the lottery.

TAHbKA
02-04-2011, 12:09 AM
Voronov is still injuried and can only do the toe jumps. Since he is no Laura Lepisto I doubt he can make it to the top 10 with only toe loop, loop and axel. Especially since he is not the most consistent skater ever.

Gachinski is injured as well, but his coach will not let him heal anyway. He is indeed only 17 and needs to gain experience and reputation to become Pluschenko n.2. That is, if he doesn't follow Shabalin's path with his knee.

Menshov is indeed the champion, but so far at his only big competition he managed to completely bomb his sp. No one promises that at worlds his LP would be like it was at the SP.

Bottom line - Russia has plenty of mediocre skaters, but no one who would be a safe bet to be sent to worlds. Assume it will be up to the reputation, coach, blah blah....

Ziggy
02-04-2011, 01:00 AM
Menshov is very inconsistent.

Gachinski seem a bit more consistent but being so young, at his first Worlds... I am betting on him bombing too. :P

Kasey
02-04-2011, 02:31 AM
Gachinski seem a bit more consistent but being so young, at his first Worlds... I am betting on him bombing too. :P

He's a Russian male skater of the last 10 years other than Plush or Yagudin....odds are good for bombing! ;)

Cherub721
02-04-2011, 02:44 AM
He's a Russian male skater of the last 10 years other than Plush or Yagudin....odds are good for bombing! ;)

It's basically a matter of sending the one who will embarrass them the least. :slinkaway

barbk
02-04-2011, 03:52 AM
There's also the video of the photoshoot:
Ultraporny photoshoot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4c4IS_VX1A)



That is a very cute video -- no need to understand Russian.

kwanfan1818
02-04-2011, 06:05 AM
I am behind on this. Does Russia have just one mens spot at worlds this year?

Yes: two Russian men started at last year's Worlds. Borodulin had trouble with his blade -- I think it broke -- and had to withdraw. He received 18 points for not making the FS. Voronov needed to be top 10 for 28 points or less to earn two spots for Tokyo, and he came in 14th.

It's such a shame because it so much harder for one man to make top 10 to get two spots than it is for two men to keep two spots.

oleada
02-04-2011, 06:53 AM
Tatiana & Maxim at Art On Ice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59GRtyAUeXQ)

Beautiful skating :swoon: Would love to see them include some of those moves in their competitive programs.