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oleada
02-25-2011, 06:21 PM
I don't know. I wouldn't think so. Already Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, Shelepen are likely to move up. Sheveleva had a solid but unspectacular JGP season (won bronze in Courchevel) and has been somewhat inconsistent in the past. She could qualify for the JGPF if she skated to her potential early in the season.

Here's her LP from Russian Junior Nats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q4FVEAt0xk

Kasey
02-25-2011, 06:31 PM
In men's in the Russian cup final, Menshov is in the lead, over Nikolaev and Voronov, who are about a point apart (Menshov has about 8 1/2 points over those two). Poor Bariev finished last; Artem Borodulin came back in this event, but unfortunately either had a realllllllly shaky showing, or wasn't up to competing again yet, because he's way down the list as well, two spots up from last.

barbk
02-25-2011, 06:37 PM
Does this affect who gets sent to Worlds?

oleada
02-25-2011, 06:38 PM
No, the World team has already been announced.

Autumn_girl
02-25-2011, 08:19 PM
Rosa Sheveleva just won the Russia Cup final today, beating Makarova & Leonova easily. She's got great jumps and her presentation has improved tremendously. Her 3Lz is a cracker.

She'll be senior eligible next season, and she will definitely be in contention for the Euros & Worlds spots.

Yeah, I expect her to be near the top next season. She looks mature and confident, I think next season she will try at least 2A-3T, with such great jumps it wouldn't be a problem... I wonder if Leonova and Makarova will still make the team next season, with finally age eligible Sheveleva, Shelepen and Agafonova it's going to be much harder.
And today I was impressed with two little girls who came 1st and 2nd in juniors (both b. in 1999), especially Alsu Kayumova who has all triples already and a beautiful 2A-3T

Tinami Amori
02-25-2011, 09:02 PM
It's Verner's tough luck that he got singled out, but it was bound to happen to someone at some point. And I'm not surprised it was he. A few years ago, he said something about how he was not gay but "normal," so it appears that he's a bit tone-deaf as to how people might perceive things he says and does.

Don't apply "american mentality" to English terms used by non-English speakers.

"Normal" (Normalniy) in Eastern European languages context means "like majority - average - standard", which in this context means "straight". It was not meant to mean "others are abnormal".

I've got to say this, Squibble...... you're pretty horrible when it comes to "open mindness" that you constantly preach. Your "mindness" is based strictly on "small american world" that you live in, and you critique all else around you, Europe, Russia, Asia, as "inferior to american ways".

Squibble
02-25-2011, 09:25 PM
Don't apply "american mentality" to English terms used by non-English speakers.

"Normal" (Normalniy) in Eastern European languages context means "like majority - average - standard", which in this context means "straight". It was not meant to mean "others are abnormal".

I've got to say this, Squibble...... you're pretty horrible when it comes to "open mindness" that you constantly preach. Your "mindness" is based strictly on "small american world" that you live in, and you critique all else around you, Europe, Russia, Asia, as "inferior to american ways".

Did you actually read my post? What I said was:


A few years ago, he said something about how he was not gay but "normal," so it appears that he's a bit tone-deaf as to how people might perceive things he says and does.

All I said was that it appears that he's a bit tone-deaf as to how other people might perceive things he says and does. I didn't say he's bigoted against gay people, and frankly I have no idea whether he is or isn't.

By the way, speaking personally as someone who knows you (or at least used to know you) in real life, I must say that am not surprised, by I am disappointed, by your ignorant, presumptuous, ad hominem attack on me. You really haven't changed.

senorita
02-25-2011, 09:27 PM
Have V/T competed yet in the February event to get the international score?

euterpe
02-25-2011, 09:46 PM
Have V/T competed yet in the February event to get the international score?

They won Mont Blanc and got 250 ISU ranking points.

Tinami Amori
02-25-2011, 10:23 PM
Did you actually read my post? What I said was:
All I said was that it appears that he's a bit tone-deaf as to how other people might perceive things he says and does. I didn't say he's bigoted against gay people, and frankly I have no idea whether he is or isn't.

By the way, speaking personally as someone who knows you (or at least used to know you) in real life, I must say that am not surprised, by I am disappointed, by your ignorant, presumptuous, ad hominem attack on me. You really haven't changed.

You accused Verner of being tone-deaf given he is Czech, was speaking Czech to Czech people, using the word "normal" as it it used in his country/culture; he can't be "tone-deaf" if his "tone" is determined by the language and terminology used in his country/society. You are applying "language specifics of your country and culture" to a foreigner who lives in a different "world".

I personally support pro-gay issues and rights, I currently reside in California and such issues are part of my immediate world. In many other countries “gay rights and issues” are not on the forefront, have not reached the acute point in terms of laws and society, people HAVE NOT yet established criteria for “politically correct terms” or in many instances any terms at all to discuss these issues, let alone to discuss these issues in a language that meats “approval” of countries where these issues are on-going.

You keep on stressing the "amorality of skating before a Totalitarian Leader" as if the standards are set in stone.

Many countries, especially the ones with “totalitarian regime”, hold MOST OF THEIR FESTIVALS around political events, which include celebration of the current leader.

What was earlier “Folk Festivals” after rise to power of “a totalitarian leader” became “Ode to the Regime Festivals”…. You can’t cancel every Festival because current leaders renamed it or “usurped it” in the name of the “current ideology”.

When in 1960’s, 1970’s, 1980’s Bolshoi Ballet and Kirov Ballet toured the world and North America to standing ovations, there were still Gulgag in USSR, the Lybianka Interrogation Prison, and KGB arrested the “opposition” on daily basis…. I don’t remember “World” boycotting Bolshoi and Kirov Ballet…..

In the 60’s and 70’s and 80’s many international Artists and Performers came to USSR to perform in concerts, celebrations and festivals…… plenty from Western Countries, including America! These concerts, celebrations and festivals were ALL named by a title which somehow reflected “Soviet Regime specifics”.

We, young people and many older people, WELCOMED back then the fact that “outside world” was willing to visit us; we felt less isolated, happy to get a glimpse of what is on the other side…… It’s contact with the outside that helped the events of the 1990’s….

You may read lots of “wikipedia facts”, but it is a good idea to “extrapolate” once in a while and connect the dots between “facts” and “information”.

(and I am certain you’re lying about knowing me in the past. I don’t know Squibble nor a person with your thinking patters and form of communications).

Squibble
02-25-2011, 11:17 PM
and I am certain you’re lying about knowing me in the past.

Typical.

You used to have a German teacher whose first name was Erika. Satisfied? :P

When she says something dumb like she did back in school
That's Amori
When she eats communion wafers (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2991110&postcount=216) with cream cheese and lox
You're in shock
When you read her latest post and you want to scream but you know you're not
Dreaming signore
Scuzza me, but you see, back in old Berkeley,
That's Amori (Amori)
That's Amori!

:)

Kasey
02-26-2011, 12:05 AM
Have V/T competed yet in the February event to get the international score?

And to add to the response, yes, they easily earned the minimum TES scores to compete at Worlds. They are planning on leaving for Japan March 10.

Tinami Amori
02-26-2011, 12:25 AM
Typical.

You used to have a German teacher whose first name was Erika. Satisfied? :P

When she says something dumb like she did back in school
That's Amori
When she eats communion wafers with cream cheese and lox
You're in shock
When you read her latest post and you want to scream but you know you're not
Dreaming signore
Scuzza me, but you see, back in old Berkeley,
That's Amori (Amori)
That's Amori!

:)

:D The only thing I remember about my first 36 months in USA (aka high-school © 1975+) is lots of hash and joints given to me by students and teachers in both Bazerkeley high-schools….. So which one are you, the one who handed me the dobbie or the pipe?

…… and your poetry is no “Vinograd” aka “will not earn you a living”…. No wonder you lean “socialist”….. :D.

Asli
02-26-2011, 12:48 AM
:D The only thing I remember about my first 36 months in USA (aka high-school © 1975+) is lots of hash and joints given to me by students and teachers in both Bazerkeley high-schools….. So which one are you, the one who handed me the dobbie or the pipe?

I am sure the answer to this question should rather be given via a PM.

genevieve
02-26-2011, 01:12 AM
the whole thing needs to be taken to PM. Or not, but keep it out of here.