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sandra_persch
02-13-2011, 07:20 PM
massive change to the substitution rules
the list is updated after each ISU senior event and published on the ISU homepage. if a skater or pair withdraws the first one in the ranking of the substitute list has to be invited. no more replacing with the lowest ranked skaters on the list. it has to be the number 1 on the list of substitutes.
>> some change has to be done. this year´s withdrawals and empty spaces were really akward

Thats the one change I like too. It gives more meaning to the autumn internationals again and will encourage skaters to show up, especially if they had a bad season or injury before and are back in great shape.

Shame they didn't get rid of the 3 skaters per federation maximum.

chipso1
02-13-2011, 10:34 PM
Cutting singles and dance entries? :wall: What the fcuk, ISU? :huh:

I also don't like the fact that the previous Worlds top 6 have the option do to three SGP events. Like someone else said, I would prefer that other skaters get the chance to gain senior experience.

Sylvia
02-13-2011, 10:43 PM
Cutting singles and dance entries? :wall: What the fcuk, ISU? :huh:
Yeah, I had heard some rumblings about this but didn't want to post something without actual confirmation (knowing how :mad: people would be about the reduction in GP slots).

OlieRow
02-14-2011, 12:58 AM
Wait... Reducing the number of spots AND allowing some to do 3 events?? Horrible for those trying to break through.

oleada
02-14-2011, 01:00 AM
Is the ISU trying to kill the sport?

MikiAndoFan#1
02-14-2011, 01:03 AM
Singles - down to 10 entries each
Dance - down to 8 entries each
Pairs - remains at 8

Top 6 from worlds can do 3 events like in the past


:wall:

Coco
02-14-2011, 01:34 AM
These changes should really motivate USFSA and Skate Canada to have Senior B's. Just sayin'...

bibi
02-14-2011, 02:33 AM
Has anyone else heard anything or come across articles mentioning possible locations for Skate Canada or the GP Final? We had an article posted at the end of last month about Quebec City possibly being a location for the GP Final, but just wondered if anyone had heard anything else in the last couple weeks. Hope there's an announcement soon about both events! :)
Heard there will be a Skate canada annoucement at the end of february !! Can't wait to know :)

HisWeirness
02-14-2011, 05:13 AM
massive change to the substitution rules
the list is updated after each ISU senior event and published on the ISU homepage.
Well, at least we won't have to constantly update our own GP substitutes list for our own (FSU) reference now that the ISU will be publishing it online.

SamuraiK
02-14-2011, 05:21 AM
Reducing the spots in Grand Prix ?? WTF?!!!!

I actually would love if skaters can do 3 events but NOT if theyre gonna cut the spots from each field.. thats just totally bogus..


The subsitute rule is actually quite good.. we ended up with some really crappy low level fields this season because of inviting the lowest ranked for the sake of home skaters..

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care bear
02-14-2011, 06:35 AM
Skaters, who are doing 3 GP, will earn points only in two competitions. In the GP started very weak competitors such as Diana S. from Canada, so in order to prevent this in the GP, the number of participants was limited and introduced the passing score for the GP.

haribobo
02-14-2011, 03:32 PM
minimum score will be implemented at 2/3 of the previous season top score ... example Pairs S/S currently first with 210.72 so minimum score would be 140.48


Wow, so based on this, going by the ISU seasons best scores list, the following pairs have not yet met the min score-

23 139.94 Klara KADLECOVA / Petr BIDAR CZE European Championships 2011 27.01.2011
24 138.55 Yue ZHANG / Lei WANG CHN ISU GP NHK Trophy 2010 23.10.2010
25 136.85 Tatiana NOVIK / Mikhail KUZNETSOV RUS ISU GP Cup of Russia 2010 20.11.2010
26 134.14 Ashley CAIN / Joshua REAGAN USA ISU JGP Czech Skate 2010 15.10.2010
27 133.08 Taylor STEELE / Robert SCHULTZ CAN ISU JGP Final 2010/2011 11.12.2010
28 131.77 Natasha PURICH / Raymond SCHULTZ CAN ISU JGP Czech Skate 2010 15.10.2010
29 131.04 Brittany JONES / Kurtis GASKELL CAN ISU JGP Final 2010/2011 11.12.2010
30 131.03 Anna SILAEVA / Artur MINCHUK RUS ISU JGP Pokal der Blauen Schwerter 2010 08.10.2010
31 129.26 Huibo DONG / Yiming WU CHN ISU GP Skate Canada International 2010 30.10.2010
32 128.04 Stacey KEMP / David KING GBR European Championships 2011 27.01.2011
33 127.48 Felicia ZHANG / Taylor TOTH USA ISU GP Trophee Eric Bompard 2010 27.11.2010
34 125.39 Ekaterina PETAIKINA / Maxim KURDUYKOV RUS ISU JGP Czech Skate 2010 15.10.2010
35 125.34 Adeline CANAC / Yannick BONHEUR FRA European Championships 2011 27.01.2011
36 123.45 Kylie DUARTE / Colin GRAFTON USA ISU JGP J. Curry Memorial 2010 01.10.2010
37 121.13 Tatiana DANILOVA / Andrei NOVOSELOV RUS ISU JGP Cup of Austria 2010 17.09.2010
38 120.72 Lubov BAKIROVA / Mikalai KAMIANCHUK BLR European Championships 2011 27.01.2011
39 118.06 Katharina GIEROK / Florian JUST GER European Championships 2011 27.01.2011
40 117.69 Kristen TIKEL / Ian BEHARRY CAN ISU JGP Pokal der Blauen Schwerter 2010 08.10.2010
41 117.36 Brynn CARMAN / AJ REISS USA ISU JGP Cup of Austria 2010 17.09.2010
42 115.53 Carolina GILLESPIE / Luca DEMATTE ITA European Championships 2011 27.01.2011
43 115.15 Kaleigh HOLE / Adam JOHNSON CAN ISU GP Cup of China 2010 06.11.2010
44 114.62 Cassie ANDREWS / Timothy LEDUC USA ISU JGP J. Curry Memorial 2010 01.10.2010
45 113.24 Mandy GARZA / Brandon FRAZIER USA ISU JGP Cup of Austria 2010 17.09.2010
46 112.75 Alexandra VASILIEVA / Yuri SHEVCHUK RUS ISU JGP J. Curry Memorial 2010 01.10.2010
47 110.13 Anna KHNYCHENKOVA / Mark MAGYAR HUN ISU GP Trophee Eric Bompard 2010 27.11.2010
48 109.25 Margaret PURDY / Michael MARINARO CAN ISU JGP J. Curry Memorial 2010 01.10.2010
49 108.71 Kristina ASTAKHOVA / Nikita BOCHKOV RUS ISU JGP Cup of Austria 2010 17.09.2010

and on down from there....

What about the home entries- like for example France and their pairs- are they still allowed to send their new pairs to TEB even though none of them have achieved the minimum score? IMO it would be *very* obnoxious for ISU to impose the min score rule on home skater selections. I do like the substitute rule though. Hate the minimizing of singles from 12 to 10, horrible decision.

haribobo
02-14-2011, 03:49 PM
So with 60 total spots in singles, we can more or less count on the top 30 from seasons best scores getting 1-2 spots, barring injuries, retirements, going back to JGP. Account for reshuffling after 4cc, Jr. Worlds, and Worlds- but more or less I expect the GP skaters to be-

Czisny, Kostner, Murakami, Ando, Suzuki, Korpi, Nagasu, Gao, Wagner, Makarova, Flatt, Lacoste, Phaneuf, Imai, Zawadzki, Leonova, Marchei, Biryukova, Shelepen, Samson, V. Helgesson, Vannut, Mao Asada, Gedevanishvili, J. Helgesson, Lafuente, probably Yuna Kim…not sure whether Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, Shoji, and Z. Li will stay on JGP another year- they are also be in the top 30.

If alternates are based on ISU SB score, then we could see the following: B. Geng, Sheveleva, Meite, Baga, Suguri, Hecken, Agafonova, Nishino, Fujisawa, Gong, K. Zhang, Silete, C. Zhang, Liinamae…

Frau Muller
02-14-2011, 03:49 PM
By limiting the total number of entires, yet allowing the top-6 of Worlds skate in 3 events, it sounds as if the ISU is trying to create lasting 'stars' (Kwans and Plushenkos). Such manipulations rarely work.

euterpe
02-14-2011, 04:33 PM
I wonder how many of the top 6 would want to do 3 GPs.