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01-20-2011, 07:48 PM
I meant popular as in a popular topic (hot topic), not necessarily that everybody who posts loves him.

In other words, love him or hate him (or in between), this guy invites attention.
Notorious would be a better word :shuffle:.

01-20-2011, 09:42 PM
Exactly. My friend pulled out some old emails I had written when I was about 26. :yikes: Holy cripes, the stoopid things that I thought were So Important :drama: and worthy of analysis back then. :lol: Thank GAWD there is only a witness of one today and those emails are hidden in a box in the attic.

A 40 year-old guy I know was telling me about how he was at a party full of 20-somethings recently, and he had mentioned about how obnoxious all the 25 year-old guys were because, as he put it "That's the age when male dickheadedness is at its absolute zenith."
I'm 26 and I think Johnny is a brat. :lol: Then again people have always mistaken me to be 5 years older than I really am. :P

And even in my :drama: teens I usually kept bratty thoughts to myself! I'm :eek: that Johnny would think airing it out in a book was the right thing to do. Bleck.

01-20-2011, 10:08 PM
Tanith Belbin and Charlie White went to Johnny's book signing at the Borders on the University of Michigan's campus in Ann Arbor:

from Tanith' twitter (http://twitter.com/#!/TanithJLB/status/28079804649574401):
Refused to get out of bed this a.m. Before finishing @JohnnyGWeir's book! Love you JWe. What a beautiful mess of a life we live :)

01-20-2011, 10:25 PM
Tanith Belbin and Charlie White went to Johnny's book signing at the Borders on the University of Michigan's campus in Ann Arbor:

I'm tragically depressed that I missed Johnny's book signing... or not.

01-20-2011, 11:52 PM
I absolutely love how Johnny looks with the curly hair and the glasses in those pictures with Tanith. That "geek chic" thing really works for him.

01-21-2011, 12:18 AM
I don't see it at all. His shtick leaves me cold. Usually, for me, he's the worst part of any movie he's in.

Worse than Andie McDowell in Four Weddings and a Funeral? :eek:

01-21-2011, 01:38 AM
That's what's amazing about how they can go on. They start with class, they have a full day of rehearsals and/or their matinee performance prep, they have rehearsals before their evening performance, sometimes behind the curtain up to the minute of the performance, and then they perform at night. At NYCB, as a corps or featured dancer, especially as injuries pile up towards the end of the season, might dance in 2 or 3 of 3 ballets, and twice a day on Saturdays. (It used to be Sundays, too, until they went down to a late matinee only.) Yet they survive on very little, because it's always six hours before a performance.

No kidding! I live next door to a principal dancer in a major US company and we are friendly. I've seen the inside of her fridge a couple of times: leaves, greek yogurt and many many bottles of wine and always a lot of excuses and attempts to hide how little she eats. She doesn't :smokin: but her body is :smokin:... no idea how she subsists. As a principal with only lead roles, she does daily class and rehearsals but only performs every other day or every third day during a performance week or in "Nutcracker month" (she was alternating between the Sugarplum and the Dew Drop last month but never performed on consecutive days.) The cast in the leads always alternates (not sure if this is true of all major companies but I would assume so...). it's the poor corps that have to dance every performance!

Anyway, I was a big Johnny fan in the day, adored his skating in the 2001-2006 era and even loved the reality show. But now that I've finished the book and I'm a few days removed from it, I realize it's done a lot to alienate me.

I think the biggest issue is that Johnny disses on things like his lodgings in Lake Placid, while I'm thinking "Huh? That a place I thought was perfectly good enough for me...". Or he's dismissive of other skaters who aren't at his level while I'm thinking "Hmmm, those are skaters who happen to have many good qualities and I've enjoyed watching as much as you, even if they aren't National Champion material..."

As he did this he was little by little alienating me with his shallow judgment. It's never what you say, it's how you say it and the context in which you place it. Either Johnny did not get good advice, or this is just another manifestation of him doing it "his way" and not caring who he offends or what they think, no matter the consequences. I hope he doesn't regret writing this book in 10 years because I'm guessing he'll be viewing things with a much more mature lens (as most of us do) as he gets into his 30s and 40s.

Here's a couple of examples:

On Art Devlin's Motor Inn in a chapter called "Embracing the Starving Artist" about starting over after his disastrous 2002-2003 season, Johnny wrote:

"My motel, little more than polyester bedspreads and ugly carpeting, provided no comfort. This wasn't the official hotel of the sectionals where all the other skaters were staying. No, that was down the street and more than I could afford. I had to settle for serial killer lodging. Wrapping myself up in my own sheet so that I wouldn't have to touch the dubious bedding, I took solace in my thriftiness and hoped the this Starving Artist might get at least a few hours of sleep." (Without invoking Hugh Grant or prostitutes, I'll just say that that description is really doing a disservice to Art Devlin's wonderful motel, which also is rated by travelers on TripAdvisor as #1 out of 32 in business class hotels in Lake Placid.)

It's especially pathetic when you put it in context. Earlier in the chapter he's going on about how Tarasova waived her double-digit thousand fees to train him for free because he "didn't have a penny to my name" and how he's "wearing his poverty as a badge of a prideful club." To sum up the chapter, he wholeheartedly embraces the "starving artist" label because he didn't merit a spot on the tours and the federation had cut off his funding (and his benefactors died or gave up on him. ;)) Instead of describing any gratitude for any opportunities he's now being given to re-prove himself after lying, slacking and screwing up royally the previous season (by his own admission) he describes things he's forced to do as humiliating and punches the starving artist image in the gut with distain. It all felt very hypocritical and/or disingenuous.

In the same chapter, on having to compete at the Liberty Open he says:

"The other low-ranked senior level skaters with no chance at a national title sneaked furtive glances in my direction.

Those other skaters included Scott Smith, who had just finished 4th at Nationals - higher than Johnny had ever finished in his two senior nationals - and showed up landing a quad sal - when Johnny wasn't even attempting a quad in competition yet. :blah:

He also liked writing: After the announcer unceremoniously called my name.... Well I posted the video link earlier, you can judge for yourself if it was unceremonious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8weRNM2ENo But if you look at that point in his career, what did he do to deserve some sort of special announcement? Win World Juniors? Derrick Delmore, 1998 WJC and also someone with a quad sal (that he had landed in international competition) was in the field too. ;)

Oh, my spoiled little self-centered Johnny... :drama:

01-21-2011, 02:59 AM
BreakfastClub,I think Johnny wrote this book not as a autobiography,just a tool to get attentions,whether good or bad,just attentions and spotlights.╮(╯_╰)╭

The book is not write for the skating fans,but for those die-heart-never-mind-what-the-idol-do fans...They will love whatever he did,he said,he loved.

It doesn't bother me,I don't care what he is as a person.I just care about the skating part.

What made me uncomfortable is some "True Fans" become accepting no criticism of any type as him.If you say something true but not praise Johnny,you will be attacked hard.╮(╯_╰)╭

01-21-2011, 03:49 AM

01-21-2011, 04:12 AM
Worse than Andie McDowell in Four Weddings and a Funeral? :eek:

Didn't see it. But he was the weak link in an otherwise magnificent cast in Sense and Sensibility, I thought. At least Alan Rickman was there to make up for him. :D

Tinami Amori
01-21-2011, 04:24 AM
He lost my love for wearing fur strictly for fashion...




01-21-2011, 04:47 AM
Didn't see it. But he was the weak link in an otherwise magnificent cast in Sense and Sensibility, I thought. At least Alan Rickman was there to make up for him. :D

You should watch About a Boy. I would've given him an Oscar nod for it.

01-21-2011, 04:50 AM
You should watch About a Boy. I would've given him an Oscar nod for it.

Yeah, I liked him in that.

01-21-2011, 06:08 AM
I wouldn't draw parallels between the two. Hugh Grant's dad was an Olympic gold medalist in rowing, and Grant has talked quite a bit about how he felt he had to strive upward, so to speak, to live up to what his dad had accomplished and to his dad's reputation. I don't see that as being similar to Weir's situation.
I think you may be confusing Hugh Grant with Hugh Laurie. The latter's father, Ran Laurie, won a gold medal in rowing at the 1948 Olympics.

01-21-2011, 08:23 AM
Second, he feels compelled to mention that everyone thought he was too good for "Alex." Why, because "Alex" was not a senior national medalist?

While I still couldn't get my hand on a copy of the book, if this is true, I rather find it sad. Alex, after all those years, still managed to maintain a very professional, low-key and natural way of lifestyle, adored by many for his skating style and work, as well for his way of not getting involved in any kind of scandal or outragousness. So, looking at that, I think it was quite the opposite: Alex was way too good for Johnny.