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Carolla5501
01-19-2011, 07:53 PM
I had lunch at the same resturant Sasha did last year before the Ladies Final in Spokane. While I did not walk over to her table and "examine" her food... it was food and she did eat it!

agalisgv
01-20-2011, 03:35 AM
I can understand Johnny not wanting to live in a small town (I too much prefer big cities, the bigger the better, and I would feel myself shrivel if I had to live in a tiny town!) but he was in Lake Placid for a competition! Surely he can handle two days in beautiful surroundings I wonder if it's a small town thing, or a class issue. I remember reading an article on Hugh Grant once, and it talked about him coming from a middle-class background, but being obsessed with becoming upper class. The article quoted some of his college-mates from Oxford who said Grant only wanted to hang-out with students from the elite, and he would be more into upper-class pursuits them all of them combined. The desire to be all things rich and wealthy were depicted as shaping much of Grant's predilections, friends, and behavior.

It could be something similar with Weir. I believe Weir came from a rural, middle-class background. And IIRC, even at the Olympics Weir complained that his accommodations were not up to his standard. To me his comments quoted from his book were not dissimilar to people I know who are absolutely disgusted at the thought of staying in a *gasp* motel, or a less-than-4* hotel. Doesn't really matter if the place is in a rural area or not--it's the class associations of staying in a place "beneath" them.

So maybe Weir wants to be associated with what he perceives as upper class at this point, and has little tolerance for things/people he believes are below that standard. Maybe Weir is the Hugh Grant of the figure skating world :lol:.

my little pony
01-20-2011, 03:41 AM
So maybe Weir wants to be associated with what he perceives as upper class at this point, and has little tolerance for things/people he believes are below that standard. Maybe Weir is the Hugh Grant of the figure skating world :lol:.

getting arrested with a hooker would be an interesting post script to this book

agalisgv
01-20-2011, 03:59 AM
getting arrested with a hooker would be an interesting post script to this book Would be even better if the hooker was female and he decided to marry her :smokin:

purple skates
01-20-2011, 04:11 AM
It could be something similar with Weir. I believe Weir came from a rural, middle-class background. And IIRC, even at the Olympics Weir complained that his accommodations were not up to his standard. To me his comments quoted from his book were not dissimilar to people I know who are absolutely disgusted at the thought of staying in a *gasp* motel, or a less-than-4* hotel. Doesn't really matter if the place is in a rural area or not--it's the class associations of staying in a place "beneath" them.

I'm going to call BS on this. I don't want to stay at lessor hotels because I don't want to deal with bugs and dirt and druggies, and I can afford to not have to. It has nothing to do with pretending I am upper class. If I can't afford to stay at the level of hotel that I want to, I don't go on the trip.

As for Weir's Olympic comments, I think he was out of his league there and trying to make (lame) excuses for his less than successful overall performace.

agalisgv
01-20-2011, 04:22 AM
I'm going to call BS on this. I don't want to stay at lessor hotel....It has nothing to do with pretending I am upper class. Why are you personalizing my comment about Hugh Grant and possibly Johnny Weir to you :huh:?

I was talking about a specific phenomenon of someone coming from a middle-class background aspiring to be all things upper class, and one way in which that is manifested is in disdain in certain housing arrangements. That's not to say everyone who chooses to stay in a particular hotel has upper-class aspirations :confused:.

purple skates
01-20-2011, 04:41 AM
Why are you personalizing my comment about Hugh Grant and possibly Johnny Weir to you :huh:?

I was talking about a specific phenomenon of someone coming from a middle-class background aspiring to be all things upper class, and one way in which that is manifested is in disdain in certain housing arrangements. That's not to say everyone who chooses to stay in a particular hotel has upper-class aspirations :confused:.

:confused: :confused: wtf?

I was pointing out that not everyone who avoids low class hotels does so because they are snobby or are pretending to be high class, and using myself as an example. I have no idea where you are coming from in this quoted post, or how Hugh Grant got into the conversation in my post, or how you could possibly think I have personalized what you are saying.

agalisgv
01-20-2011, 04:45 AM
I was pointing out that not everyone who avoids low class hotels does so because they are snobby or are pretending to be high class That didn't relate at all to the point I was making in the post you quoted, so it didn't make sense to me.
I have no idea...how Hugh Grant got into the conversation in my post Because the post you quoted from me was arguing for a possible parallel between Grant and Weir.


It appears there's some miscommunication happening ;).

overedge
01-20-2011, 05:28 AM
I wonder if it's a small town thing, or a class issue. I remember reading an article on Hugh Grant once, and it talked about him coming from a middle-class background, but being obsessed with becoming upper class. The article quoted some of his college-mates from Oxford who said Grant only wanted to hang-out with students from the elite, and he would be more into upper-class pursuits them all of them combined. The desire to be all things rich and wealthy were depicted as shaping much of Grant's predilections, friends, and behavior.


I wouldn't draw parallels between the two. Hugh Grant's dad was an Olympic gold medalist in rowing, and Grant has talked quite a bit about how he felt he had to strive upward, so to speak, to live up to what his dad had accomplished and to his dad's reputation. I don't see that as being similar to Weir's situation.

skateboy
01-20-2011, 05:32 AM
Precisely. Sarah is most disappointing because of the Yale degree. But it's all pilates, Starbucks, etc.



I don't tweet (yet), but why do these people find Starbucks so interesting? I don't get it.

Prancer
01-20-2011, 05:42 AM
I'm going to call BS on this. I don't want to stay at lessor hotels because I don't want to deal with bugs and dirt and druggies, and I can afford to not have to. It has nothing to do with pretending I am upper class. If I can't afford to stay at the level of hotel that I want to, I don't go on the trip.

Aside from the :confused:, I don't understand why bugs and dirt and druggies have come up, as even Johnny didn't claim that the hotel in question was that bad, and everyone else has said that it's a regular, everyday hotel and not some sort of dump.

I don't think anyone expects Johnny to stay at a roach motel and like it; it's that people think he's sneering at a hotel just because it's not luxurious, which is not the same thing.

Nomad
01-20-2011, 06:12 AM
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I don't think anyone expects Johnny to stay at a roach motel and like it; it's that people think he's sneering at a hotel just because it's not luxurious, which is not the same thing.

Here's what he has to say about his reaction to his "mean accommodations" at the Olympic Village in Torino:

"I walked over to Priscilla's room to check out her living space, but when I arrived she was nowhere to be found. The building was empty since the women's skating team didn't arrive for another week and a half. So I started poking around and a light bulb went off in my head. I grabbed a bunch of fleece blankets, two lamps, a bedside table, and a few extra towels for good measure."

Nice. Never mind that this behaviour might inconvenience his coach or his fellow team members. It's all about Johnny and what he wants and needs. Because he's special. He's a star. He "deserves" it. :rolleyes:

Japanfan
01-20-2011, 07:20 AM
Maybe Weir is the Hugh Grant of the figure skating world :lol:.

Ouch!! Hugh Grant has evolved into a fine comedic actor and has oodles of charisma. Weir left his charisma on the ice, IMO.

danceronice
01-20-2011, 03:58 PM
Aside from the :confused:, I don't understand why bugs and dirt and druggies have come up, as even Johnny didn't claim that the hotel in question was that bad, and everyone else has said that it's a regular, everyday hotel and not some sort of dump.

I don't think anyone expects Johnny to stay at a roach motel and like it; it's that people think he's sneering at a hotel just because it's not luxurious, which is not the same thing.

Exactly. I like a nice hotel (and have been known to say my idea of roughing it is when the hotel doesn't have a restaurant.) But there's a difference between staying at the Red Roof Inn or Motel 6 and being expected to stay at the no-tell motel off the state highway that charges by the week. We've had people on this thread familiar with the actual hotel Johnny was apparently sniping about in Lake Placid--apparently, it's not the Plaza, but it's not a crack house, either. I'd rather stay at a Kimpton property, but if I'm in a small town that doesn't have one, I'll survive at the Best Western, somehow. *note sarcasm*

Johnny sounds less like he's aspiring to a 'better' class than he wants people think he's rich enough to be a jerk about sub-five-star accomodations. (The better class knows better than to complain about it, which is why the celebutantes and fashionistas are, by and large, just trash with money, not 'upper class'.)

Jenny
01-20-2011, 04:06 PM
Sounds like Johnny has no idea what "class" really means.