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Willowway
01-08-2011, 08:26 PM
I want to join the folks who have good things to say about Michael. He has been nothing but polite (super polite) and gracious to me when we occasionally run into each other. I am no one special to him although he knows who I am, nor to his wife Lisa and yet, they have been just lovely. "Classless"? Not as far as I have experienced. And I think his Foundation work and the many skaters it has supported mean a great deal in the "class" department.

REO
01-08-2011, 08:42 PM
I remember back in the day Johnny telling a story about, at one of his first senior competitions, a well known skater whom he admired came back after his performance and dumped all the stuffed animals and flowers he got into the garbage can. Johnny thought it was really lousy because people had paid money for those things and thrown them in appreciation. He had even brought stuffed animals to throw at his friends himself. I always had an inkling it was Weiss he was talking about but I was never sure. I'm getting surerer.

genevieve
01-08-2011, 08:51 PM
I have a hard time imaging that Johnny ever admired Weiss

WindSpirit
01-08-2011, 09:09 PM
There's no need to get defensive about what Weir said about Weiss or whomever else in his book and try to bring up examples that would contradict that. Different people have different experiences. We also interpret things differently. So Person A's experience with someone can be completely different than Person B's.

And it's not a thread about Micheal Weiss anyway.

museksk8r
01-08-2011, 09:53 PM
I can imagine Weiss and his family didn't like Weir between 2004 to 2006 when Michael was soundly beaten by Johnny at Nationals. There have been many accounts that Michael's family was very disrespectful towards Michael's competitors and fans of other competitors at competitions. Weiss's unflattering comments towards Weir and Savoie at Nationals were well documented back in 2003. Of course, given that these experiences happened 7-8 years ago, it should all be forgotten water under the bridge now. I would question someone's sanity if he/she was still holding a grudge over any of it. :shuffle:

kwanette
01-08-2011, 10:13 PM
Michael made the comment about "junior skaters" at 03 Nats when Johnny finished 2nd in the sp. I doubt that he said it to Johnny but rather to the media.

A friend got the book for me for xmas and it came yesterday..hopefully, she'll get through the snow to get it to me.

Bonita
01-08-2011, 11:45 PM
I have met Michael Weiss and was struck by how tiny he was, hardly hulking, LOL. And he was a sweetheart to my mom, who was babbling away and star struck. Everyone who skated in our club's show with him said he was super nice.

Can't wait to read this book, I wonder if my local library is getting it. Are there dirty parts, LOL, hope not or they may not stock it.

snoopysnake
01-09-2011, 12:17 AM
Pretty clean in what I've read so far, except for a bit of profanity. Nothing graphic.

neptune
01-09-2011, 12:59 AM
It's possible that Weiss is nice to fans and a ---- to his competitors.

Then Johnny should specify why he thinks Michael is classless. Otherwise, why should anyone take his remarks seriously? And "idiot"? There's a difference between frank but respectful criticism and snarking.

Carolla5501
01-09-2011, 01:15 AM
If Johnny thinks Michael Weiss is "big and hulking", Johnny must be smaller than he looks.

Yeah, I have stood next to Weiss.. "big and hulking" Well.. at 5'5" I think I was taller :) and "hulking"? Maybe someone should introduce Weir to a football player to give him some perspective on that statement :)

Honestly, I expected this. Not attack on "Weiss" exactly but for Weir to use his book to "throw" stones at folks who weren't his friends or whom he "thinks" USFSA gave "his titles" too... Kind of :(

One of the reasons I will wait until this hits the "bargin bin" (and honestly considering the "popularity" of skating in the US right now that may happen sooner then we would like!) '

Here's the thing... I doubt that Weir would want everything HE has done in the presence of his competitors disclosed.... he might should have thought about that. Sometimes you reap what you sow. I have a feeling Evan alone has some great "stories" LOL! I think that perhaps what happens in those "locker" rooms should stay there for everyone's best interest. By telling all you may make Weiss etc. look bad, but you don't make yourself look that good either to most Americans. (And am I the only person old enough to remember Summers and Witt telling about who rude they used to be to each other in the waiting areas etc... part of the 'psych' out game. But they went on to become what appeared to be good friends)

I am sitting here watching one of the most "admired" athletes from my Alma Mater (Peyton Manning) warm up... and even he has "locker room horror stories" Things just happen in the heat of these type of events.

Nomad
01-09-2011, 01:15 AM
Then Johnny should specify why he thinks Michael is classless. Otherwise, why should anyone take his remarks seriously?

Agreed. Back up your statements if you want to make them convincing. That said, I've known people who are perfectly nice in a social environment but can be real a**holes in a competitive situation.

Carolla5501
01-09-2011, 01:18 AM
Then Johnny should specify why he thinks Michael is classless. Otherwise, why should anyone take his remarks seriously? And "idiot"? There's a difference between frank but respectful criticism and snarking.

He may have.. you aren't getting the ENTIRE book here:lol:

Sparks
01-09-2011, 01:54 AM
Here's the thing... I doubt that Weir would want everything HE has done in the presence of his competitors disclosed.... he might should have thought about that. Sometimes you reap what you sow. I have a feeling Evan alone has some great "stories" LOL! I think that perhaps what happens in those "locker" rooms should stay there for everyone's best interest.
Here's the thing...Weiss made a derogatory comment in public, to the press...as was stated up thread.
Its not "locker-room" gossip, AFAIK.

Willowway
01-09-2011, 01:57 AM
I doubt that Weir would want everything HE has done in the presence of his competitors disclosed.... he might should have thought about that.

Right you are. But I have the sneaking suspicion that Weir's key competitors have (as Musesk8tr said many posts ago) put old news behind them, are classy (to put it in Johnny's terms) enough not to bother responding, and actually have better things to do than deal with this swat at, in this case, Weiss' reputation (please see other new thread about the Foundation grants for 2011 which sorta puts things in perspective).

As you say, this will find it's way to the remainder bin in time and it will take with it a little bit more of Weir's dignity. When he says these things, it is at his own expense in the end. Be fun, be out, love style, dress wild but don't become the "classless" guy in the room, just be the interesting guy in the room; outrageous/original (think David Bowie or someone like that who has been a complete original) does not equal classless but Johnny doesn't always seem to get that. He was a lovely skater but that too seems to be a thing of the past.

neptune
01-09-2011, 02:14 AM
That said, I've known people who are perfectly nice in a social environment but can be real a**holes in a competitive situation.

Oh, yes. Many people are excellent chameleons. My sister had a roommate once who I thought was the nicest person on earth. Well, it turns out that she was simply a very good actress. ;)


He may have.. you aren't getting the ENTIRE book here:lol:

Well, in a few days, I'm sure someone on here will have already read the whole thing. They can fill us in. :)