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PRlady
09-12-2011, 05:31 PM
However I am too olive skinned for anything other than very very subtle highlights (hate skunk stripes) that can only be seen if the light hits them just right and that create an overall softer effect of my dark brown hair. Most people don't ever guess that I am Russian when they meet me. I've been called Italian most commonly, also Israeli, Palestinian, Greek, South American, Hispanic but no one ever guessed that I am Russian. :lol: My favorite was when people thought I was my golden haired fair skinned son's Hispanic nanny when I took him to the park.

On our honeymoon a sweet old Sicilian guy was trying to prove to me that I am Sicilian, I just had to be: "Look at the hair, the skin!". :P

My Spanish former beau kept telling me I didn't look Jewish, I look like I'm from Provence or Northern Italy. Which may have been his way of noting I have green eyes and (thanks partially to great colorist) caramel-colored hair with highlights and lowlights that just magically appear, I don't have them done.

In Mediterranean countries people speak to me first in their native language -- Italian, Greek, Hebrew. In northern Europe, never. :)

And there ARE a lot of beautiful dark-haired Russians...I keep thinking of whatshername the ballerina that danced with Nuryev for example.

IceAlisa
09-12-2011, 06:26 PM
In Mediterranean countries people speak to me first in their native language -- Italian, Greek, Hebrew. In northern Europe, never. :) Well, there you go, you know how I feel.


And there ARE a lot of beautiful dark-haired Russians...I keep thinking of whatshername the ballerina that danced with Nuryev for example.
I think of Ekaterina Gordeeva when I think of beautiful dark haired Russians. She is a classic Russian beauty IMO.
I have very little Russian in me though. The women in my family must be a throwback to our ancestors in Spain or even further back than that.

Scintillation
09-12-2011, 11:45 PM
My Spanish former beau kept telling me I didn't look Jewish, I look like I'm from Provence or Northern Italy. Which may have been his way of noting I have green eyes and (thanks partially to great colorist) caramel-colored hair with highlights and lowlights that just magically appear, I don't have them done.

In Mediterranean countries people speak to me first in their native language -- Italian, Greek, Hebrew. In northern Europe, never. :)

And there ARE a lot of beautiful dark-haired Russians...I keep thinking of whatshername the ballerina that danced with Nuryev for example.

I dye my hair dark brown/cherry brown and I'm pale as a fish so a fake psychic once told me I had "beautiful Italian skin". :lol: I told her I was Irish/Jewish and she decided then to tell me that she sees that I should visit Ireland. Right. (We get a lot of interesting guests.)
On a wallet-emptying note, I finally convinced myself to try the Morrocan Oil curl cream and I'm pissed because I really like it and it's $32. Dammit.

my little pony
09-12-2011, 11:48 PM
i dont even remember my natural hair color

skatemommy
09-12-2011, 11:56 PM
^ this (get's a "like" ala Facebook) :lol:

I've been in the 9/11 thread like I should not be and crying my head off...

beepbeep
09-13-2011, 12:47 AM
i dont even remember my natural hair color

Someone rep her.
I wished I could :cool:

kimkom
09-13-2011, 01:24 AM
i dont even remember my natural hair color

Do you do you own Brazilian bikini wax, or go to the salon? :D

myhoneyhoney
09-13-2011, 01:25 AM
I have black thick frizzy (grrr) asian hair that's past my armpits and I just did a box dye at home 3 weeks ago! I used two boxes of this (http://www.drugstore.com/loreal-preference-les-true-brunettes-ultra-light-ash-brown-ul-61/qxp178674) and it actually turned out ok! This (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mariemay/6141832337/) is how it turned out after drying and straightening it with a big fat Revlon curling iron (because I can't afford those expensive Chi flat irons).

my little pony
09-13-2011, 01:27 AM
Do you do you own Brazilian bikini wax, or go to the salon? :D

lol, i see a specialist for single everything.

Scintillation
09-13-2011, 01:38 AM
i dont even remember my natural hair color

My manager is there to remind me every time he sees my roots. "What is that, gray hair growing in?? Oh no, it's just your natural hair color." Thanks smartass. It's a delightful dishwater brown.

skatemommy
09-13-2011, 01:46 AM
I have black thick frizzy (grrr) asian hair that's past my armpits and I just did a box dye at home 3 weeks ago! I used two boxes of this (http://www.drugstore.com/loreal-preference-les-true-brunettes-ultra-light-ash-brown-ul-61/qxp178674) and it actually turned out ok! This (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mariemay/6141832337/) is how it turned out after drying and straightening it with a big fat Revlon curling iron (because I can't afford those expensive Chi flat irons).

you are gorgeous!

star_gazer11
09-13-2011, 03:53 AM
I have black thick frizzy (grrr) asian hair that's past my armpits and I just did a box dye at home 3 weeks ago! I used two boxes of this (http://www.drugstore.com/loreal-preference-les-true-brunettes-ultra-light-ash-brown-ul-61/qxp178674) and it actually turned out ok! This (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mariemay/6141832337/) is how it turned out after drying and straightening it with a big fat Revlon curling iron (because I can't afford those expensive Chi flat irons).

Wow, that came out of box, from black/brown? I'd say that turned out quite well. :)

Cyn
09-13-2011, 06:56 AM
Off topic but is anyone coloring their own hair? I love my gal been with her 20 years but the gray is coming in faster than the floodgates. Home coloring success anyone ladies? I majorly screwed up my color using a box at home years ago so wondering if anything has improved?

Box color (the stuff at drug or grocery stores) pretty much suck - the end result is rarely what the box indicates, nor is it what the person wants, especially if trying to go from darker to lighter hair.

My natural hair color was strawberry blonde as a baby/little kid, but over the years it gradually darkened, first to an auburn brown, and eventually to a :yawn: flat brown by the time I hit my teens. In high school, I had highlights done regularly (as did most teenage girls back in the 80s), but back then I had no clue how much they cost because Mom always footed the bill. After I decided to go back to "normal" hair (after 4 years of crazy-ass Punk Rock styles and colors), I tried the highlights again, at one point with heavy, heavy foiling to the point that my hair was pretty much blonde, but the cost of those foils was :eek:, and I always felt that they didn't look natural, mainly due to my skin tone.

In 1990, I decided to go back to my roots (there's a really bad pun in there somewhere :P) and became a redhead and have been one since as it suits my skin tone, eye color (green), and my temperament :lol:. It was/is a single-process color job, and after years of watching the colorists at work, I decided that I could probably do it myself. The last time I went to him, we changed my color up a bit, and I made sure to remember the number(s) of the colors that he used.

The next time I needed to color my hair, I went to Sally's Beauty supply and purchased the color, an application brush and bowl, a pair of gloves (nowadays I snag a few pairs from the doctor's office or the ER when I'm in the room by myself :shuffle: :slinkaway ), a deep conditioner, and a bottle of processor.

All in all, it was incredibly easy. The trickiest part for me was having to tinker with the processor to figure out which strength I needed so the end result was the desired color. Processor comes in several levels:

10 (weakest),
20 (standard - I think this is what's in the box stuff, but in those, it's a crap quality),
30 (stronger, for hair that is darker and/or more resistant to lightening), and
40 (which must be what those dark-haired Russian gals use when they go platinum blonde ;)).

I had been using a 20, and the color always ended up darker than I wanted, nor was it the color the dye was supposed to be. It turns out that my hair is definitely more resistant, and once I switched up to a 30, it worked perfectly.

All in all, using the brush/bowl is way easier than using a squeeze bottle to home-color hair. I don't know how long your hair is, but it does take a bit more work if it's long. It's also a bit more of a challenge if your hair is curly. Mine is a bob that's just above shoulder length, so it's pretty easy. The best part is that the cost of the color and the processor ranges from 7-10 bucks (the brush and bowl may run another 10 bucks total, but that's a one-time investment). When compared to paying $50.00 on average for a single process color in a salon (and then the tip on top of that), the amount of money saved is :respec: :kickass: .

Hope this info helps.


I hear ya sistah. Since I turned 25 grey has been increasingly out of control. :mad:


Think Mila Kunis' coloring. Dark brown hair, olive skin. So hiding those grey streaks is a much bigger pain than it would have been. I could never pull off blond hair, nor would I want to. A proud brunette! :)

:rofl: Are you sure you're not my sister? Your description of yourself fits her to a "T," but instead of Mila Kunis, my sister looks more like a cross between a brown-eyed version of Kristian Alfonso (better known as Hope Brady from DOOL, whose eyes are green), and Emmy Rossum (if Emmy had olive-toned skin).

SisterCyn inherited my dad's side of the family's (Eastern European/Lithuanian, and Jewish) genes - body type (short, small bone structure, and slim), hair color/texture (dark, dark brown, thick, and curly), eye color (dark brown), and an olive-based skin tone. In the winter she gets fairly pale, but in the Spring/Summer, she gets a deep, dark tan in practically no time at all.

OTOH, I ended up with the genes on Mom's side of the family's (predominately Scottish and English) genes - body type (tall, medium bone frame, and weight that varies), hair color/texture (strawberry/light brunette, thin, baby-fine, and straight - it won't hold a curl for more than a half hour at best), eye color (light eyed - lots of blue, green, and hazel eyes on her side, and mine are green but turn blazing blue when I'm really pissed off), and insanely pale skin, with a lot of natural pink in it, especially in the face (I never tan - I always burn :fragile: ).

People are always shocked when they find out we're sisters. It's also weird because in the face, we both look a lot like our Mom, yet our own faces look nothing alike. She's always mistaken for being either Italian, Latina, Greek, Spanish, Middle Eastern, and Jewish (though that one's not a mistake). I get the typical "You look like you're Irish/Scottish" comments all the time. Also, unless I tell people, they have absolutely no idea that I'm Jewish, which has led to some rather uncomfortable situations when I've been in a group of people I don't know/they don't know me, and someone makes a derogatory/bigoted comment about Jews, thinking it was "safe" (IOW, none of "them" around) to do so :mad:. When that has happened, I've taken a bit of :EVILLE: pleasure in fcuking with them. If you've seen the movie Exodus, something akin to the scene when Ari (Paul Newman), dressed as a British officer named Bowen, is talking with Major Caldwell (Peter Lawford), who despises Jews, and they have this little exchange of conversation:


Maj. Caldwell: [about Jews] They look funny too. I can spot one a mile away.
Ari Ben Canaan: [pointing at his eye] Would you mind looking into my eye, sir? It feels like a cinder.
Maj. Caldwell: Yes, certainly.
[Caldwell looks into Ben Canaan's eye]
Maj. Caldwell: You know, a lot of them try to hide under gentile names, but one look at their face, you just know.
Ari Ben Canaan: With a little experience, you can even smell them out.
Maj. Caldwell: I'm sorry Bowen, I can't find a thing.

I won't lie - I took more than a bit of pleasure in, after screwing with them (and letting them dig themselves an even deeper hole) and then telling them that I was a Jew, watching the person squirm, try to backtrack their comments, and flush with embarrassment when they realize they've been called out for being an ignorant fool and a bigot.


I agree that the consumption of peroxide in Eastern Europe is through the roof. I see a lot of flat, platinum color instead of layered highlights, at least 3 different kinds of blond to mimic natural highlights created by the sun in blond hair. This is what I would do I were a blonde.

No offense meant to any Russians/Eastern Europeans here that are blonde (natural or fake), but I swear, the overwhelming majority of horrific :yikes: :scream: blonde color jobs I've ever seen have been on Russian women. Like you stated, the color is often flat, a lot of the time it still has that brassy orange undertone, is often fried, and looks so obviously fake I can't understand how they could think it looks attractive.

vesperholly
09-13-2011, 11:29 AM
All in all, using the brush/bowl is way easier than using a squeeze bottle to home-color hair.

I've done very subtle highlights myself at home by buying a lighter dye and mixing a bit in a bowl, and put the color on with those sample mascara wands from Sephora. It wasn't complicated, basic highlights around my face, but it always came out nicely and the mascara wands give you very good control for finer highlights. My stylist remarked that it was impressive that there was no "bleeding" (when the color soaks into other parts of the hair underneath) in the colors. :encore:

I used to dye my hair at home all the time, red to blonde to light brown - never had the courage to do the Anne Hathaway-style dark brunette that I love - but I decided about 5 years ago that I just like my natural color as-is. Lucky for me that I don't have any gray hairs! My skin tone demands a very specific tone, at least to my eye, and it's not very versatile. I really envy you ladies who can dye your hair tons of different shades and pull it off!

fan
09-13-2011, 03:08 PM
i have a question for the educated masses here. count me in as another jewish eastern european background with dark brown (almost black) hair and an ATM pale, olive toned complexion. at 29 i'm going gray increasingly more rapidly :eek: everyone i know tells me not to start to dye my hair - but i'm uncomfortable with it. why do they tell me not to start to dye my hair - i wouldn't be getting highlights (dont want the upkeep) - i just want to match my natural colour and cover the gray!