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pinky166
12-08-2010, 04:08 AM
There's been a lot of talk about Miki Ando lately and her wins, no connection to the music, jumping lessons, lack of real programs, etc. So I'm curious to see who people think is her male counterpart. I'm gonna say Joubert, but Oda and KVDP get honorable mentions.

Jenna
12-08-2010, 04:18 AM
KVDP. An exceptionally gifted jumper, but not much else. He is much worse than Ando.

pinky166
12-08-2010, 04:23 AM
Yeah I was originally thinking KVDP, but Miki actually manages to win a lot of medals despite her lack of everything else, and Kevin doesn't, which is why I said Joubert. He doesn't have much to offer besides his jumps but he has still managed to earn a lot of medals that way.

AliasJohnDoe
12-08-2010, 06:28 AM
Preaubert should be on the list.

doubleflutz
12-08-2010, 07:28 AM
None of the options were correct, but I voted KVDP as the closest approximation. Clearly Miki is Jan Hoffmann, though: wonderful jumper, terrible skater, fabulous human being.

RumbleFish
12-08-2010, 07:57 AM
I usually refer to Brandon Mroz as the male version of Miki Ando when I talk to casual fans who only watch figure skating during the Olympics. They laugh at first but after watching his programs, soon understand why such prestigious title is appropriate for him.

WayCon
12-08-2010, 04:30 PM
I have to say my first thought, even before I saw the choices, was KVDP, though, of course, the comparison is not perfect. But they are both big jumpers, who land heavily on the ice. Miki completes hers more regularly.

siberia82
12-08-2010, 04:59 PM
The very first skater I thought of when I read the title of this poll is Mroz. Whenever his performance is shown on the CBC, I have a really hard time staying awake. :yawn:


which is why I said Joubert. He doesn't have much to offer besides his jumps but he has still managed to earn a lot of medals that way.

I'm not a fan of Joubert by any means, but I admit that he's very entertaining when he skates to techno music, so over-all, I'd say that he doesn't deserve to be equated with Ando's level of blandness. But that's just my opinion, of course.

pinky166
12-08-2010, 04:59 PM
I usually refer to Brandon Mroz as the male version of Miki Ando when I talk to casual fans who only watch figure skating during the Olympics. They laugh at first but after watching his programs, soon understand why such prestigious title is appropriate for him.

Mroz hasn't had the success that Ando has though, although he is young and potentially could in the future. Also, his jumps are small, just consistent, so he's more like Rachael Flatt IMO. The comparison with Preaubert is interesting but again, what man has won a world medals (including a title), GP medals, GPF medals, and national medals through jumping and not much else. I still say Joubert. Oda can be pretty boring too at times.

orbitz
12-08-2010, 05:03 PM
Mroz hasn't had the success that Ando has though, although he is young and potentially could in the future.

I think this thread is more about a skater who goes from one jump to the next with little to zero ability to relate to the music and not so much about how many titles one has won. In this sense I can see Mroz as being the equivalent of a Miki Ando.

pinky166
12-08-2010, 05:09 PM
I think this thread is more about a skater who goes from one jump to the next with little to zero ability to relate to the music and not so much about how many titles one has won. In this sense I can see Mroz as being the equivalent of a Miki Ando.

Well, in that respect, Mroz makes sense. When I created the thread I was thinking more, what male skater goes from one jump to the next without trying to relate the music and still has racked up a lot of impressive medals. I guess it just goes to show how weak the ladies event generally is in the jumping department.

igniculus
12-08-2010, 05:52 PM
Preaubert should be on the list.

You're kidding, right? Of all, Preaubert? Did you watch any of his programs recently or even pre-2008? He may seriously lack basic skills compared to others, but "no connection to the music" or "lack of real programs"? Boy, I do want what you're smoking.

officialcoach
12-08-2010, 06:47 PM
Timothy Goebel and non other!!

Extranjera
12-08-2010, 07:05 PM
I don't think Joubert is the male version of Ando. When Joubert won his world title in 2007 no one could catch up with his jumps. Miki's jumps are OK, but compared to other female skaters she's not a superb jumper.

pinky166
12-08-2010, 07:10 PM
I don't think Joubert is the male version of Ando. When Joubert won his world title in 2007 no one could catch up with his jumps. Miki's jumps are OK, but compared to other female skaters she's not a superb jumper.

In 2007 when she won worlds, she was, are you kidding? She may not be anymore now that she's almost scary thin but in 2006-2007 she was a jumping machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grYoQfnCHHc
70+ for TES, enough said.