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kosjenka
12-02-2010, 01:15 PM
Idora Hegel.

my favorite Level 3 Mascara :) <3

robinhood
12-02-2010, 03:41 PM
Does Gusmeroli qualify as an OES? That program of Legends of a Fall was magnificent, along with the one she was a robber and stole some diamond bracelet (what year was that?)
I loved Viktoria Volchkova, but I don't know if you're russian you can be Obscure in figure skating.
Lucinda Ruh, too...I guess my choices are not valid:P

ETA: Ahhh! I remembered being a huge Silvia Fontana fan, at the time. I thought she'd be world champion one day!

ioana
12-02-2010, 03:44 PM
Not exactly medal-contenders, but all of these get honorable mentions from my end

Vanessa Giunchi's Schindler's List LP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ju80rZYwXE)

Alice Sue Clayes skated very well at Skate Canada in 1992 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A19DoS2vXeM), but I liked her programs from the mid 90's better...Would have been nice if she managed voids and jumps in the same program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx-ORXTLg-A

Zuzanna Szwed lost some of her jumping ability when she grew, but made up for it with very interesting programs. I'm suprised she wasn't mentioned along with Anna Rechnio and Wojtala. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWLwILP85fQ

I really liked Simone Lang from Germany, too, especially her SP from 1995 Worlds -which doesn't seem to be online. Something about her basic skating was always very appealing.

alchemy void
12-02-2010, 04:18 PM
Current OES ladies:

Irina Movchan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLURSYxYdKk) from Ukraine is my current favorite. She already has the level 4 makeup, permanent pout, and a great collection of XS costumes. She struggled last year but apparently has a new coach and is making progress. Her first competition of the year is next week at Golden Spin, let's hope she does well because she has some serious Ukrainian competition in the form of...

Natalia Popova (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJx9M1az4u4) who is coached by Petrenko, and has the jumps through the 3loop consistent (for an OES at least!). She placed 5th in a deep field at Coupe de Nice this year, so she can clearly land the jumps. But as you can tell she doesn't have the void potential of Movchan and to make it worse skates to old zzzzz Sokolova music, how offensive! :lol:

Elena Glebova has been around awhile, but her Sex and the City SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQn9PxKB8r0) is really tragic, especially the footwork sequence. I really love it! :cheer: Sadly her skating has deteriorated the past few years. And what the hell is Levandi allowing her to go onto the ice with choreography this bad?

And I've had high hopes for Bianka Padar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuwsT7PBtq0) to become an OES superstar for a few years now but she hasn't done anything since then. Maybe with Sebestyen finally out of the way, she'll get her s#@! together and make it Euros this year. If nothing else I WANT TO SEE THIS COSTUME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7r7xpEW5tg) AT EUROS!

Everyone else has done a good job of mentioning the OES of yesteryear.

While Olga Markova was perhaps a bit too successful to be counted as true OES, this program (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcQH9LQNig) :swoon: remains one of my all time favorites, and she actually landed 5 triples here! She's so much more than a lime green boa and single salchows! :lol:

But an OES list is incomplete without Hristina Vassileva (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz1pIgk0t1I) and her middle east/chanting voids! :cheer: This music kicks ass, hopefully somebody will use it again! Movchan, I'm looking at you....

orientalplane
12-02-2010, 05:26 PM
Please add to the list unforgettable Mila Kajas.
94 Olympics Free skate was wonderful.

Yes, it was, and she was so lovely, elegant, and could do both flip and lutz (on her good days!) I remember her winning the silver medal at the Lalique Trophy, a great achievement.

I loved Zuzanna Szwed as well, but she could never master the more difficult jumps. Her FS music, 'The Teacher' in the 1997 Worlds season was truly haunting, and I've never heard it before or since.

Mafke
12-02-2010, 06:14 PM
Love her (Markova: mafke) but she was not obskure, no?

I tend to think of her and Rechnio as roughly the same level, Markova did better at euros but Rechnio did better at worlds (arguably).

Neither was really obscure for real fans at the time.

CantALoop
12-02-2010, 06:40 PM
Elena Glebova has been around awhile, but her Sex and the City SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQn9PxKB8r0) is really tragic, especially the footwork sequence. I really love it! :cheer:

:eek: omg, that's so awesomely tragic. If we have the FSU Gay Icon of the Year poll this year, I nominate her for that technically clean, yet hot mess of a program.


this program (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcQH9LQNig) :swoon: remains one of my all time favorites, and she actually landed 5 triples here!

I love that program too, and the early 90's music cuts/choices! Starts off with bad Yanni-esque new age-y soundtrack music, then tinkly piano music, and finally a bad tekno version of Firebird to finish! :cheer:

Has anyone mentioned Krisztina Czako (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi0FazjCHRQ) yet? When she was on, her jumps were huge, and she had wonderfully bizarre programs like the Addams Family LP linked here, and supposedly a dog-themed program as well. :rofl:

I also want to see a clip of Nina Bates because I remember she used to be a running joke on this board. :shuffle:

gkelly
12-02-2010, 06:50 PM
I really liked Simone Lang from Germany, too, especially her SP from 1995 Worlds -which doesn't seem to be online. Something about her basic skating was always very appealing.


I love this program (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyGH1otirbM) and the Jesus Christ Superstar short program from the same season.

I'm just sorry it took her until her last year of competition to settle into a non-frantic style of presentation.

all_empty
12-02-2010, 11:57 PM
Ok, this may be a little mean, but I was at Worlds one year (2003, I think) and Vanessa Giunchi has so much glittery lotion and makeup on that I just wanted to grab one of her infamous headscarves and wipe it all off her. I think she may have even been Italian champ over Carolina Kostner that year.

Marco
12-03-2010, 03:09 AM
Idora Hegel.

my favorite Level 3 Mascara :) <3

The girl with no knee bend!

Marco
12-03-2010, 03:12 AM
Ok, this may be a little mean, but I was at Worlds one year (2003, I think) and Vanessa Giunchi has so much glittery lotion and makeup on that I just wanted to grab one of her infamous headscarves and wipe it all off her. I think she may have even been Italian champ over Carolina Kostner that year.

Her Bolero at SLC wasn't so sad. At least she was always much better with her jumps than Fontana.

all_empty
12-03-2010, 07:00 AM
I also want to see a clip of Nina Bates because I remember she used to be a running joke on this board. :shuffle:

I saw Nina at 2004 worlds and actually thought she would hurt herself on her jump attempts.

That being said, she is a better skater than I'll ever be.

I remember seeing some girls from Greece, Ireland, and Lithuania that were actually not bad. Many didn't have triples, but their skating skills were pretty decent and they really worked on things like spirals and spins. Gotta hand it to them for trying.

Ziggy
12-03-2010, 08:04 AM
Anna Rechnio skated at the 39th United Arab Emirates National Day 2010, yesterday. And she has given birth only a few months ago. She truly is a legend! :cheer:

Zuzanna Szwed > Parchem got married to Aaron Parchem and she's a choreographer now.

Popova is just hopeless. Poor basics and skates like a piece of a brick hauled around the ice.

Glebova is similarly expressive.


Idora Hegel.

my favorite Level 3 Mascara :) <3

What a wasted talent. :(

I am sure she could have achieved a lot with proper coaching. I mean she was landing all the triples as a teenager already.


Btw I don't see anyone mentioning Tatiana Malinina. I remember her really good season.. either 99 or 00 (at 26 years old) .. she won some GPs and then I think the final? And she was seeing Roman Skorniakov.

MALININA WAS THE BEST AND WAS TOTALLY ROBBED!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAARGH!


I think it depends on the generation. I can remember when the idea of being able to interpret a person's body language was regarded as some kind of voodoo. And now it's pretty mainstream among younger educated people.

Polish Figure Skating Association is totally scared of psychologists and none of the currently working Polish coaches work with a sport psychologist.

PFSA seems to blame sport psychology for Wojtala's inconsistency. /sigh

And people in Poland people seem to still regard psychology as something to do with serious mental ilness. :/


But an OES list is incomplete without Hristina Vassileva (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz1pIgk0t1I) and her middle east/chanting voids! :cheer: This music kicks ass, hopefully somebody will use it again! Movchan, I'm looking at you....

OMG thanks for that link! That Devdas program is LEGENDARY! :D

WHY IS NOBODY SKATING TO THIS?

orientalplane
12-03-2010, 08:21 AM
Has anyone mentioned Krisztina Czako (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi0FazjCHRQ) yet? When she was on, her jumps were huge, and she had wonderfully bizarre programs like the Addams Family LP linked here, and supposedly a dog-themed program as well. :rofl:


Krisztina wasn't really an OES. She won the silver medal in Europeans in 1997, just missed out on other occasions and made the top ten at Worlds a couple of times. She could do all the triples, though not all of them with great consistency, and had a fabulous 3-3. If Czako is what you call obscure, you want to try watching the whole ladies' SP at Europeans one day. ;)

shah
12-03-2010, 12:38 PM
Rechnio had two problems.

added: She's done some commenting for eurosport and I noticed two things

1. She has the Peggy Fleming gift of dooming skaters by praising them saying "she's skating very well tonight" seconds before a fall.

2. She drove me crazy with overuse of the word "czyściusieńko" (roughly "nice and clean") for jumps that are anything but, kind of like Hamilton's "nailed it!" anytime a skater manages to stand up the landing.

lol, I still remember this "czyściusieńko" fixed phrase :P.
but definitely a wasted potential :(. she could medal so many times. I'll never forget her "GWTW" programme...



Yulia Lavrenchuk - (for ziggy: didn't she look kind of like Szapołowska?) nice fast high jumps but she didn't last long.



don't offend Grażyna!
Lavrenchuk for me was very wooden and non-expressive at all. yet she still managed to medal at Euros (once, iirc)...

does Mikkeline Kierkegaard also qualify as OES of a gone era? :)