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victoriaheidi
12-10-2010, 12:16 AM
Guess Gao won't be on the World team this year...

I never expected her to go to Worlds this year...but I do hope to see her go to Jr. Worlds a second time.

smarts1
12-10-2010, 02:25 PM
I never expected her to go to Worlds this year...but I do hope to see her go to Jr. Worlds a second time.

I never expected it either. Tell Pinky that.

Christina has shown that she is unable to consistently deliver, especially when the pressure is on. And for some odd reason, she likes to peak at completely the wrong time in the season. But maybe she'll blow us away at Nationals.

RD
12-10-2010, 02:56 PM
That's why I say being "unproven" is not a huge step up from being "inconsistent"...

victoriaheidi
12-10-2010, 03:56 PM
That's why I say being "unproven" is not a huge step up from being "inconsistent"...

You're right. It's not, and in the mind of a spectator, one is essentially inconsistent until proven otherwise. I don't think Rachael Flatt would be called Reliable Rachael if she didn't have a laundry list of National and International scores to her name. It takes some time and a good number of scores to determine one's consistency.

Also, does anyone have any clue what the heck happened to Rachael today?

Debbie S
12-10-2010, 05:07 PM
Also, does anyone have any clue what the heck happened to Rachael today?She's been dealing with tendonitis in her ankle/foot and missed a week of training.

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101210&content_id=16297502&vkey=ice_news

pinky166
12-10-2010, 06:53 PM
I never expected it either. Tell Pinky that.

Christina has shown that she is unable to consistently deliver, especially when the pressure is on. And for some odd reason, she likes to peak at completely the wrong time in the season. But maybe she'll blow us away at Nationals.

Last season she peaked at the JGPF, that wasn't exactly bad timing. And well, Rachael isn't skating so well because of her injury, Alissa and Ashley are always question marks, as for Mirai I think she'll be on the team, but as for the 2nd spot I think it's wide open right now - with Gao and Zawadzki having as good a shot as everyone else. It's a wide open affair the way I see it.

MikiAndoFan#1
12-11-2010, 11:16 AM
Alissa is the new GPF champion! :cheer2:

Jammers
12-11-2010, 11:41 AM
Rachael needs other skaters to make mistakes to ever have a chance to win. Plus when the other ladies skate to their potential it makes Rachael's plodding style look even worse. It might be good for Rachael to go to college and quit skating after this season.

Marlowe
12-11-2010, 12:46 PM
Rachael needs other skaters to make mistakes to ever have a chance to win. Plus when the other ladies skate to their potential it makes Rachael's plodding style look even worse. It might be good for Rachael to go to college and quit skating after this season.

Good for whom? She's in the Grand Prix Finals. How does that translate into *quit skating*?

chipso1
12-11-2010, 03:29 PM
Updated List -- Through the GPF
Just for fun! :)

Top scoring U.S. Senior Ladies

1. Alissa CZISNY (180.75) Grand Prix Final
2. Mirai NAGASU (167.79) Trophee Eric Bompard
3. Christina GAO (167.14) JGP Austria
4. Ashley WAGNER (167.02) Cup of Russia
5. Rachael FLATT (162.86) Skate America
6. Yasmin SIRAJ (161.75) JGP Sheffield

7. Vanessa LAM (156.41) JGP Ostrava
8. Agnes ZAWADZKI (154.35) Skate Canada
9. Kiri BAGA (138.70) JGP Japan
10. Kristiene GONG (134.32) JGP Sheffield
11. Caroline ZHANG (133.86) NHK Trophy
12. Melissa BULANHAGUI (133.72) Nebelhorn Trophy

13. Amanda DOBBS (132.45) Cup of China
14. Alexe GILLES (125.64) Skate Canada
15. Karen ZHOU (123.63) Coupe de Nice DNQ to Nationals
16. Felicia ZHANG (123.16) JGP Dresden
17. Samantha CESARIO (122.39) JGP Romania
18. Kristine MUSADEMBA (119.45) Cup of China

Czisny improves upon her Skate Canada score by about 8 points to remain in 1st. At the JGPF/GPF, Flatt, Gao, Siraj and Gong ALL performed well below their best (Flatt 30+ points below, Gao 20+ points below, Siraj 30~ points below).

Upcoming events:
Nationals. :D

Jammers
12-11-2010, 08:30 PM
Good for whom? She's in the Grand Prix Finals. How does that translate into *quit skating*?

Because Rachael has achieved about as much as she can as a skater. She looked like a junior skater compared to all the other ladies today. And how much more improved can she get? She's slower then ever and has no real presence on the ice. If she doesn't have her jumps she has no chance. And as the younger skaters get better they will eventually overtake her.

Sylvia
12-11-2010, 08:37 PM
And as the younger skaters get better they will eventually overtake her.
Well, this applies to every competitive skater out there and not just Rachael Flatt. ;)

Jammers
12-11-2010, 11:04 PM
But some of the other skaters like Mirai and even Ashley can still improve. Heck look at how Alissa has improved with new coaching.

shan
12-11-2010, 11:14 PM
I just felt so bad for Rachael at the GPF.

:cheer2: Alissa!!!

chipso1
12-11-2010, 11:54 PM
Some interesting U.S. ladies-related fun with numbers...

In four attempts this season, Czisny has not scored below 104 in the FS.

In three attemps this season, Gao has not scored below 101 in the FS (and those were junior programs).

Zawadzki has been wonderful in the SP, not scoring below 56 points yet.

Nagasu has been the most consistent in the SP, scoring 58.76 and 58.72 in her two GP events.

More than 35 points separate Flatt's SB overall score (Skate America) and her worst overall score (GPF).

Once the U.S. Nationals sub-forum goes up, I'll post my 2011 Nationals Fun-with-Numbers stuff again. :) I have all the numbers crunched and ready to go!