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pinky166
01-21-2011, 01:52 AM
Unfortunately, another withdrawal was announced today (originally posted in the "Skater Withdrawals" thread in the 2011 US Nationals forum in Kiss and Cry):

:(

Since Amanda had a bye, she will not be replaced and the Senior Ladies' field is down to 24 (4 groups of 6).

Ahh, Amanda, that's really sad. Hope she gets better soon. Now I really wouldn't be surprised if Gao or Zawadzki pulled a big upset.

chipso1
01-21-2011, 01:54 AM
Why? :confused: It's not like Dobbs was a huge podium threat in the first place, so why would her w/d have any effect on either Gao or Zawadzki's placements?

RD
01-21-2011, 02:01 AM
I agree...this definitely does not have the impact that, say, a Flatt or Nagasu WD would have.

pinky166
01-21-2011, 02:01 AM
Why? :confused: It's not like Dobbs was a huge podium threat in the first place, so why would her w/d have any effect on either Gao or Zawadzki's placements?

Yeah but you never know. It's just one less skater and usually there's an upset anyways and now Dobbs or Cesario can't be the upsets since they're not competing. Baga is also coming off an injury. I think we could be in for a lot of surprises.

victoriaheidi
01-21-2011, 02:01 AM
:( I wanted Amanda to be there!

New group configuration:

1st group (19-24): Narita, Bell, Traunero, West, Zhou, Khazova
2nd group (13-18): Forte, Kawamura, Kahle, Musademba, Gilles, Bulanhagui
3rd group (7-12): Baga, Siraj, Lam, Gong, F. & C. Zhang
4th group (1-6): Zawadzki, Gao, Czisny, Flatt, Wagner, Nagasu

victoriaheidi
01-21-2011, 02:01 AM
Yeah but you never know. It's just one less skater and usually there's an upset anyways and now Dobbs or Cesario can't be the upsets since they're not competing. Baga is also coming off an injury. I think we could be in for a lot of surprises.

Also, don't rule out Vanessa Lam as a potential surprise!

Sylvia
01-21-2011, 02:05 AM
Speaking of Vanessa Lam... here's a Downey, Calif. article about her that I've cross-posted in the US Nationals forum (glad to know she attends a regular public high school): http://thedowneypatriot.com/bookmark/11077519-Young-ice-skater-competing-for-chance-at-Junior-Worlds

Sylvia
01-21-2011, 06:11 PM
Agnes Zawadzki pre-Nationals article: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110121&content_id=16475174&vkey=ice_news

Zawadzki, who owns a strong triple Lutz, did solid triple toe-triple toe combinations in her fall short programs and does not plan any major changes in her programs next week.

"For Greensboro, we're keeping things the same, training the programs," she said. "I'm doing more repetitions and run-throughs, working to get mentally tougher. I know, after my shorts this fall that I can be a top lady. I have to keep working at it."

peibeck
01-21-2011, 06:49 PM
I'm super excited to see Agnes skate live again in Greensboro, but I have to admit her GP freeskates have tempered my hopes. :shuffle: I think Vanessa Lam could easily be a top six spoiler. I think coming in without as much public expectations like Gao or Zawadski could help her.

Jenna
01-21-2011, 06:50 PM
Zawadzki could totally medal...or fall 3 times in her free skate. Her short has been great all year..it just comes down to consistency.

smarts1
01-21-2011, 08:07 PM
^ I'm not sure. Zawadzki is pretty much incapable of skating two clean programs back to back. The only she did that was last year at Junior nationals as a new comer. Now with pressure and little experience, she's been unable to keep her nerves and adrenaline in check.

pinky166
01-21-2011, 08:13 PM
^ I'm not sure. Zawadzki is pretty much incapable of skating two clean programs back to back. The only she did that was last year at Junior nationals as a new comer. Now with pressure and little experience, she's been unable to keep her nerves and adrenaline in check.

IIRC her FS at nationals was not completely clean, I believe she doubled and stepped out of what was planned to be a 3lz (in combination). But yeah it seems like she usually has some major problems in at least one of her programs. She did do very well at that summer competition though where she beat Rachael Flatt.

Sylvia
01-21-2011, 09:21 PM
The summer club competition was the Colorado Springs Invitational back in mid-September, and both reportedly landed 7 triples in their free skates according to SarahandDrew's tweets from the rink quoted below (detailed protocols were not available online, however). Zawadzki also skated a clean SP (3T+3T, 3Lz, 2A) there, scoring 62.45.

Agnes Zawadzki 187.01 (124.56 in FS):

2A-3T, 3F, 3LZ-2T, 3LZ, 3LO, 3S, 3T-2T-2LO. Flawless. Standing ovation from most, including all off duty judges!
Rachael Flatt 163.39 (117.21 in FS):

2A-3T, 3LZ-2LO, 3F, 3LZ, 3F-2T-2LO, 3LO, 3S. Very expressive choreo. Another standing ovation!

RD
01-21-2011, 11:34 PM
I'm just gonna be quick here: [I highly suspect] this will not be her year.

chipso1
01-21-2011, 11:39 PM
I'm super excited to see Agnes skate live again in Greensboro, but I have to admit her GP freeskates have tempered my hopes. :shuffle: I think Vanessa Lam could easily be a top six spoiler. I think coming in without as much public expectations like Gao or Zawadski could help her.

I think Lam could be a top 6 spoiler, too, but I'm not sure if she'll get the positive GOE on her jumps that some of the other ladies will get. I'm not sure if 2011 is Agnes' year to medal at Nationals, but I also don't think she comes in with much pressure/"public expectations," especially after her less-than-stellar GP series.