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stjeaskategym
01-02-2011, 07:56 AM
It appears to me that Dobbs doesn't have the same momentum heading into Nationals as she did last year when she won a Senior B bronze medal in singles at Ice Challenge... Attempting to add technical difficulty to her singles programs (ETA: she hasn't yet landed the 3F cleanly in either her SP or FS at Finlandia Trophy and Cup of China) may be one reason for her early season results, but I wonder if her ability to juggle both singles and pairs was one of the keys to her success in both events at 2010 Nationals?


Dobbs does seem quite disappointed to not be doing two disciplines this year, but I don't think her focus solely on singles has been a momentum killer for her. Her programs last season were centered around the easiest triples, so it wasn't as hard for her to skate well. Expectations were also lower, and she just executed what she was really capable of doing rather than forcing anything. This year, it makes sense for her to up the difficulty. She's inserted the 3F into the short, which of course she hasn't been very comfortable with yet... Maybe she will have more luck with the 3T-3T. She has more time and energy to devote to her singles skills right now, so I can't see that being a bad thing.

victoriaheidi
01-02-2011, 09:55 AM
Dobbs does seem quite disappointed to not be doing two disciplines this year, but I don't think her focus solely on singles has been a momentum killer for her. Her programs last season were centered around the easiest triples, so it wasn't as hard for her to skate well. Expectations were also lower, and she just executed what she was really capable of doing rather than forcing anything. This year, it makes sense for her to up the difficulty. She's inserted the 3F into the short, which of course she hasn't been very comfortable with yet... Maybe she will have more luck with the 3T-3T. She has more time and energy to devote to her singles skills right now, so I can't see that being a bad thing.

When was CoC? Early November? She's already had almost two full months to devote to her 3F and 3T-3T fixes. Obviously, that's not enough to make anything perfect, but hopefully, the extra time has helped her and we'll see her really nail it in Greensboro.

Also, this is OT, but for some reason, saying that "she'll nail it in Greensboro" isn't anywhere near as dramatic as saying "she'll nail it in Spokane." I'm not sure why that is.

5Ali3
01-02-2011, 10:18 PM
She was also probably really tired by the time the ladies event came around at nationals, and it was said she had a cold, so really, in some ways you could expect her to perform better this year than she did last year.

I think Sylvia was trying to say the opposite: some skaters skate better when they're tired/sick/distracted because they can't overthink as much. It can take the edge/pressure off a little bit. (The best that I ever skated in competition, my roommate was done before me and disappeared with some random guy and didn't come back before curfew; the team leader and I were up all night until 7AM looking for her and I skated on an hour of sleep.)

HisWeirness
01-06-2011, 10:36 PM
Interview with Christina Gao from UniversalSports.com

After impressive debut, Gao seeks more 'wow' (http://www.universalsports.com/news/article/newsid=508551.html#after+impressive+debut+gao+seek s+more+wow)

American figure skater Christina Gao impressed with a top-5 finish in her senior national debut in 2010. We caught up with the 16-year-old as she prepares for 2011 Nationals to find out about her upgrades for this season and asked about her friendship with training-mate Adam Rippon.

Plus: Christina Gao photo gallery (http://www.universalsports.com/photos/galleryid=508206.html#spotlight+christina+gao)

olympic
01-06-2011, 10:42 PM
Interview with Christina Gao from UniversalSports.com

After impressive debut, Gao seeks more 'wow' (http://www.universalsports.com/news/article/newsid=508551.html#after+impressive+debut+gao+seek s+more+wow)


Plus: Christina Gao photo gallery (http://www.universalsports.com/photos/galleryid=508206.html#spotlight+christina+gao)

I hope she goes for the 3f-3t in the SP. It will make her quite competitive with Czisny, Nagasu, Wagner, Flatt

pinky166
01-07-2011, 01:09 AM
Interview with Christina Gao from UniversalSports.com

After impressive debut, Gao seeks more 'wow' (http://www.universalsports.com/news/article/newsid=508551.html#after+impressive+debut+gao+seek s+more+wow)


Plus: Christina Gao photo gallery (http://www.universalsports.com/photos/galleryid=508206.html#spotlight+christina+gao)

Oh hey it's my favorite skater! She's so cute. I hope she does her 3f-3t in both programs at nationals! I also liked the mention of the russian wonderbabies, pretty funny :P

let`s talk
01-09-2011, 11:24 AM
an interview with mirai, Jan 8th, on absolute skating:
www.absoluteskating.com

olympic
01-09-2011, 02:19 PM
an interview with mirai, Jan 8th, on absolute skating:
www.absoluteskating.com

Can't access. Is there something wrong with the link?

Sylvia
01-09-2011, 03:54 PM
Can't access. Is there something wrong with the link?
It's been fixed now. I've posted the direct link in the Nagasu thread just now: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3015229&postcount=178

Can't remember if these links were posted in another thread... Alissa Czisny was also interviewed by Absolute Skating during the Grand Prix season (published Dec. 18, 2010):
Alissa Czisny: A Skater Renewed, Part 1 (http://absoluteskating.com/interviews/2010czisny1.html)
Part 2 (http://absoluteskating.com/interviews/2010czisny2.html)

victoriaheidi
01-09-2011, 09:11 PM
Christina's so cute. Seriously, I hope they send her to Jr. Worlds one more time because I want her to make the podium there!

pinky166
01-09-2011, 09:22 PM
Christina's so cute. Seriously, I hope they send her to Jr. Worlds one more time because I want her to make the podium there!

Well, from a technical standpoint, landing on the podium at Junior Worlds will probably be more difficult than landing on the podium at SENIOR Worlds this year! Because Alissa is winning stuff with no 3-3s, as is Miki, and Carolina isn't even doing 3f and 3lz! Mao's 3a is sort of back but she has yet to do a 3-3 this season. The other ladies in contention (Kiira, Laura, Kanako, etc) only have 3t-3t. Rachael, Ashley, and Mirai could try a 3-3 (flip-toe or lutz-toe), but they don't have one solidly mastered yet. So that leaves. Yuna, but it will be her first time competing.

If you look at the juniors, Adelina has 3lz-3t and 3lz-3lo, Liza has 3lz-3t (and maybe a 3a), Risa has 3s-3t, both Polinas have 3lz-3t, Christina has 3f-3t. On top of these 3-3s, Adelina, Risa, and Polina S. all have 2a-3t as well, as does Zijun Li (although she has no 3-3).

PCS aside, Christina's 3f-3t puts her at an advantage should she go to senior worlds, but at junior worlds, without that combo she'd be at a disadvantage!

victoriaheidi
01-09-2011, 10:31 PM
Well, from a technical standpoint, landing on the podium at Junior Worlds will probably be more difficult than landing on the podium at SENIOR Worlds this year! Because Alissa is winning stuff with no 3-3s, as is Miki, and Carolina isn't even doing 3f and 3lz! Mao's 3a is sort of back but she has yet to do a 3-3 this season. The other ladies in contention (Kiira, Laura, Kanako, etc) only have 3t-3t. Rachael, Ashley, and Mirai could try a 3-3 (flip-toe or lutz-toe), but they don't have one solidly mastered yet. So that leaves. Yuna, but it will be her first time competing.

If you look at the juniors, Adelina has 3lz-3t and 3lz-3lo, Liza has 3lz-3t (and maybe a 3a), Risa has 3s-3t, both Polinas have 3lz-3t, Christina has 3f-3t. On top of these 3-3s, Adelina, Risa, and Polina S. all have 2a-3t as well, as does Zijun Li (although she has no 3-3).

PCS aside, Christina's 3f-3t puts her at an advantage should she go to senior worlds, but at junior worlds, without that combo she'd be at a disadvantage!

I guess. I don't know...something about Christina just doesn't seem completely "senior" yet (even though she's 16). Frankly, I don't think she WOULD medal at sr. worlds, but I think she'd have a decent SHOT at jr. worlds (especially if she nails the 3-3). Sure, there are a lot of good juniors, but there are a lot of good seniors, too, and I just think a newcomer from the US who hasn't even competed on the GP would get lost in the shuffle.

mgobluegirl
01-09-2011, 10:43 PM
A 3-3 combo is not the be-all and end-all of women's skating. Sure, it's important, but it's impossible to say that Skater X would beat Skater Y on the basis of having a nice 3-3.

AliasJohnDoe
01-09-2011, 11:02 PM
A 3-3 combo is not the be-all and end-all of women's skating. Sure, it's important, but it's impossible to say that Skater X would beat Skater Y on the basis of having a nice 3-3.

Agreed. CoP judges "all" elements...not just the 3/3. I find the +GOE on elements(jumps/spins/spirals/footwork)is actually what seperates the top skaters. Plus PCS of course.

DickButtonFan
01-09-2011, 11:33 PM
Not sure if this was already posted, but here is a recent video of Alissa doing her sp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAD66pzD45w&feature=player_embedded

Hopefully she does this more 'cleanly' at nationals :)